Where next for Turkey in Nato?
The line has been crossed for New Powers to form against old post WWII standards. Trump has already called Down on China & Russia for breaking sanctions on N.Korea.
serf
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/where-next-for-turkey-as-its-relations-with-the-west-become-frosty-3jpvm9zft
Calls to cancel Turkey?s Nato membership are growing amid deepening divisions with its allies.
Its relations with the US have sunk to their lowest ebb for decades while those with Iran and Russia are rapidly warming. Chinese money could yet help get Ankara out of a financial hole, and President Erdogan has publicly questioned the value of traditional partners and said he will look elsewhere for friends.
So would Nato be better off without Turkey, and could the alliance expel such a long-standing member?
serf
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/where-next-for-turkey-as-its-relations-with-the-west-become-frosty-3jpvm9zft
Calls to cancel Turkey?s Nato membership are growing amid deepening divisions with its allies.
Its relations with the US have sunk to their lowest ebb for decades while those with Iran and Russia are rapidly warming. Chinese money could yet help get Ankara out of a financial hole, and President Erdogan has publicly questioned the value of traditional partners and said he will look elsewhere for friends.
So would Nato be better off without Turkey, and could the alliance expel such a long-standing member?
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I like turkey if it?s on a club sandwich. 0 -
Possible return of the ottoman empire or a Muslim caliphate should not be dismissed or ignored - or laughed off and scoffed at
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quote:Originally posted by serf
The line has been crossed for New Powers to form against old post WWII standards. Trump has already called Down on China & Russia for breaking sanctions on N.Korea.
serf
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/where-next-for-turkey-as-its-relations-with-the-west-become-frosty-3jpvm9zft
Calls to cancel Turkey?s Nato membership are growing amid deepening divisions with its allies.
Its relations with the US have sunk to their lowest ebb for decades while those with Iran and Russia are rapidly warming. Chinese money could yet help get Ankara out of a financial hole, and President Erdogan has publicly questioned the value of traditional partners and said he will look elsewhere for friends.
So would Nato be better off without Turkey, and could the alliance expel such a long-standing member?
Nato cannot afford to have an islamic state as a member. Erdogan seems hell bent on transforming it into one, and as it moves closer, there will inevitably be a mutual agreement for it to leave the alliance.
This will move Turkey closer to and eventually within the Russian sphere. Not a good thing, but short of overthrowing Erdogan, there really is no other outlook that I can see.0 -
There will be blood! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by serf
The line has been crossed for New Powers to form against old post WWII standards. Trump has already called Down on China & Russia for breaking sanctions on N.Korea.
serf
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/where-next-for-turkey-as-its-relations-with-the-west-become-frosty-3jpvm9zft
Calls to cancel Turkey?s Nato membership are growing amid deepening divisions with its allies.
Its relations with the US have sunk to their lowest ebb for decades while those with Iran and Russia are rapidly warming. Chinese money could yet help get Ankara out of a financial hole, and President Erdogan has publicly questioned the value of traditional partners and said he will look elsewhere for friends.
So would Nato be better off without Turkey, and could the alliance expel such a long-standing member?
If they don't act like progressives demand them to act...you know the attitude of BLM/ANTIFA plus the warmongers on the right...well, there's your answer in a nutshell.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by serf
The line has been crossed for New Powers to form against old post WWII standards. Trump has already called Down on China & Russia for breaking sanctions on N.Korea.
serf
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/where-next-for-turkey-as-its-relations-with-the-west-become-frosty-3jpvm9zft
Calls to cancel Turkey?s Nato membership are growing amid deepening divisions with its allies.
Its relations with the US have sunk to their lowest ebb for decades while those with Iran and Russia are rapidly warming. Chinese money could yet help get Ankara out of a financial hole, and President Erdogan has publicly questioned the value of traditional partners and said he will look elsewhere for friends.
So would Nato be better off without Turkey, and could the alliance expel such a long-standing member?
Nato cannot afford to have an islamic state as a member. Erdogan seems hell bent on transforming it into one, and as it moves closer, there will inevitably be a mutual agreement for it to leave the alliance.
This will move Turkey closer to and eventually within the Russian sphere. Not a good thing, but short of overthrowing Erdogan, there really is no other outlook that I can see.
Spot on Don, as usual.0 -
quote:Originally posted by 84Bravo1
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by serf
The line has been crossed for New Powers to form against old post WWII standards. Trump has already called Down on China & Russia for breaking sanctions on N.Korea.
serf
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/where-next-for-turkey-as-its-relations-with-the-west-become-frosty-3jpvm9zft
Calls to cancel Turkey?s Nato membership are growing amid deepening divisions with its allies.
Its relations with the US have sunk to their lowest ebb for decades while those with Iran and Russia are rapidly warming. Chinese money could yet help get Ankara out of a financial hole, and President Erdogan has publicly questioned the value of traditional partners and said he will look elsewhere for friends.
So would Nato be better off without Turkey, and could the alliance expel such a long-standing member?
Nato cannot afford to have an islamic state as a member. Erdogan seems hell bent on transforming it into one, and as it moves closer, there will inevitably be a mutual agreement for it to leave the alliance.
This will move Turkey closer to and eventually within the Russian sphere. Not a good thing, but short of overthrowing Erdogan, there really is no other outlook that I can see.
Spot on Don, as usual.
Another country that hates Israel! And Jerusalem is to unite the Sunni's and Shiite's against THE USA & Israel.Even Egypt and Jordan with Iran too! The Saudis royal house will be overthrown. A new alliance with China and Russia is forth coming for Turkey.
The money changers are the cause along with fanatical religions.
serf
https://www.thetrumpet.com/16866-the-turkish-betrayal
When the U.S. announced this past December that it recognizes Jerusalem as Israel?s capital, President Erdo#287;an quickly responded that Israeli bloodshed has ?made Jerusalem a dungeon for Muslims and members of other religions ?. With their decision to recognize Jerusalem as Israel?s capital, the United States has become a partner in this bloodshed.? Erdo#287;an said Jerusalem ?is the red line for Muslims? and threatened to go as far as cutting diplomatic ties with Israel?again. He said Israel was a ?terrorist state? and that ?Palestine has been under occupation since 1947.?0 -
Sooner or later we will have to kick Muslim asses off the planet or die trying; they are already at war with us. Turkey is no exception; boot them out of NATO and get our equipment back from them. Let them live in the splendid squalor Muslim nut-cases seem to thrive in. The war (caliphate) to end all wars is preordained in Muslim minds. 0 -
If Turkey attacked Italy from behind...would Greece help..... 0 -
Turkey is about as relevant on the world stage as is North Dakota. 0 -
Your post reminds me have an old joke
"If Italy invaded Turkey from the rear, would Greece (grease) help?)0
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