Itch for new Pistol
#1 Cannot make up my mind between .40 Cal or 9mm.
I have 5 other pistols in 44 Mag Super Redhawk, 357 Mag S&W 19-4, 45 ACP (1911), 380 Model 42 Glock, and Ruger Single Action 22 Mag/LR. I was solidly on the power side of things leaning towards .40 cal, but more I read the more I am leaning back to 9mm.
#2 As far as pistols, I am military history nut, so I am leaning towards a Beretta 92/96 or a Sig Sauer P226. The 92/96 seems to be about half the price of a Sig. I only every held a 92 and it seemed as heavy as my 1911 (Kimber Stainless). On the other side the 1911 is my favorite gun. If I carry it I put it in a shoulder rig. I see a lot of the policeman now are carrying Sigs now. Seem to be going back to 9mms. I have read the military is switching from 92s to the Sig for the overall service weapon.
Please, What do you experts think?
I have 5 other pistols in 44 Mag Super Redhawk, 357 Mag S&W 19-4, 45 ACP (1911), 380 Model 42 Glock, and Ruger Single Action 22 Mag/LR. I was solidly on the power side of things leaning towards .40 cal, but more I read the more I am leaning back to 9mm.
#2 As far as pistols, I am military history nut, so I am leaning towards a Beretta 92/96 or a Sig Sauer P226. The 92/96 seems to be about half the price of a Sig. I only every held a 92 and it seemed as heavy as my 1911 (Kimber Stainless). On the other side the 1911 is my favorite gun. If I carry it I put it in a shoulder rig. I see a lot of the policeman now are carrying Sigs now. Seem to be going back to 9mms. I have read the military is switching from 92s to the Sig for the overall service weapon.
Please, What do you experts think?
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I would stick with 9 mm. I've had a number of 40's, over the years. Only ones I've been happy with, and kept. Have been on the Glock platform. The plastic frame, seems to reduce the perceived recoil. Compared with the steel or alloy framed pistols. It might be me, but the recoil seemed no different, than 45 ACP in those pistols.
With the U.S. Army going with the SIG. The Beretta's seem to have lost favor, with a lot of folks. I have seen a lot of used ones around, at good prices. The Beretta's are physically big handguns. But the alloy frame cuts down the weight. Believe they are something like 8 ozs lighter than the 1911.
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Because many Leos are going back to 9mm. Lot's of their 40 S & W service pistols, are showing up used handgun market. I'm speaking specifically of Glock 22's.
With a Lone Wolf 9mm barrel, and using G 17 magazines. You will be set for both cartridges, using the G 22. I no it works just fine, from personal experience. A Glock G 27 in 40 S& W is my EDC. I have shot hundreds of 9 mm rounds from it. With a 9 mm Lone Wolf barrel.0 -
The only 9mm I ever liked. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPy_BdEDtzk0 -
Police trade-in .40s are very cheap.
The new USGI M17/Sig 320 has NOTHING in common with P226 or other all metal pistols.0 -
9 is easier to feed and holds a few more. Cheaper to reload too.
9+P isn't too far behind in power.0 -
You are leaning the right way. A 40 Cal. was nothing but a sales pitch to give power levels between the 9mm, and 45, but in a 9mm sized grip frame. It does deliver on that, but it also delivers more recoil than either the 9mm, or 45, on the same sized gun.
The case in point specifically, I will use the S&W Shield, that once upon a time I had all three. I got the 40 first, as that is what the dealer had come in first. Then I got the 9mm, as the 40 was to brutal for training youngsters, and newbies. When they came out with the 45, I had to have one. As it turns out, with the 45, all dimensions are the same, height, and width, but it is 3/8" longer, and of course it has that big gapping hole in the barrel. It has about 1/3 less recoil than the 40 S&W, with +P loads in both.
So I say go with the 9mm, and get the pistol of your choice...except a Taurus...I do not do Taurus.0 -
9mm is a lot cheaper to shoot too. I have both a Sig 226 and a Sig 365. 226 is the bedside gun and the 365 for carry. I have no hesitation about recommending either or both, and I am not a striker fire kind of guy re the 365. 0 -
Thanks Everyone! 0 -
I have carried the Sig line for more than 25 years in LE. I started with a P-220 when it was the BDA-45. Then I went to the P-229 in .40. I immediately got a BarSto .357 Sig barrel and am not really sure where the 40 tube is because the 357 works so well on a variety of levels; velocity, bullet choice 115 to 147 grain, accuracy and mild recoil. Carried the P-226, again with a BarSto .357 barrel, as chief of police for several years. It is an excellent "belt" pistol, but difficult to conceal - almost as difficult as the Beretta 92. Now a P-239 is my daily carry pistol, it too is a .357. Granted, it will cauterize the entry wound at 5 feet, but it is still my choice. All through my years in LE my guiding philosophy is weapon choices was; "If an officer is comfortable and confident in his/her skill with a given weapon and caliber then they are less likely to resort to it until it is time to do so and more likely to be successful with it due to their confidence." Use what you are best and most confident with and practice, practice, practice. 0 -
Although I am a big fan of the 40 and 45, for shooting fun it is hard to beat the 9mm. As another pistol option, check out the CZ75. It is an all steel pistol that is about the same size and weight as a 1911 and they shoot amazingly well, almost match accuracy well! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Hawk Carse
Police trade-in .40s are very cheap.
The new USGI M17/Sig 320 has NOTHING in common with P226 or other all metal pistols.
Don?t be concerned about the police trade ins being worn. Most have been fired very little, and are traded in when someone in the PD just wants to get new guns, and lies to the decision makers that they are ?worn out?.
Now trade in patrol cars? Stay away, for every mile driven, factor in idle time- kind of like aging in dog years.0 -
I like stout guns myself. Have a .454, and of course a .357. I even have a 375 H&H. But when it comes to center fire semi-auto pistols 9mm is my favorite. 0 -
Isn't this kind of like asking which girl you should marry? The blond or the redhead? I think it should be a personal choice...
That being said, there are a lot of ranges that will rent you a firearm to try out. Go try several of them. That way you'll know firsthand if you would prefer the blond or the redhead....0 -
quote:Originally posted by remingtonoaks
Isn't this kind of like asking which girl you should marry? The blond or the redhead? I think it should be a personal choice...
That being said, there are a lot of ranges that will rent you a firearm to try out. Go try several of them. That way you'll know firsthand if you would prefer the blond or the redhead....
You can still have both by swapping barrels.0 -
A least handle if not shoot a CZ-75 before you purchase anything. I love the ergonomics and accuracy. Just my FWIWNSHO.... 0 -
P.S.-there are reasons that the CZ-75 has been cloned to death.... 0 -
go .40,cause shooting multiple times is silly 0 -
quote:Originally posted by SCOUT5
quote:Originally posted by remingtonoaks
Isn't this kind of like asking which girl you should marry? The blond or the redhead? I think it should be a personal choice...
That being said, there are a lot of ranges that will rent you a firearm to try out. Go try several of them. That way you'll know firsthand if you would prefer the blond or the redhead....
You can still have both by swapping barrels.
I'm not talking about calibers, I'm talking about manufacturers...0
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