Jade Helm update
It seems as though Jade Helm is getting some national press now. I can't imagine that the Pentagon or WH is very pleased that so many Americans, and Politicians are talking about this exercise in such a public fashion.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/05/06/jade-helm-military-exercise-causing-political-firestorm-in-texas-western-states/?intcmp=latestnews
A massive military exercise planned in states across the American West has touched off a political firestorm, with several top Texas officials now questioning the military's plans - if only to calm the Internet and constituent furor surrounding it.
The seven-state war simulation exercise, known as "Jade Helm 15," is planned for this summer. It involves training exercises on private and public land - while such exercises are hardly unique, even the military acknowledges the "size and scope" of this one sets it apart.
While the White House and Pentagon are downplaying concerns, this hasn't stopped a barrage of blogs and tweets warning about whether the federal government is preparing for "martial law." Even actor Chuck Norris is keeping his "eyes of a ranger" on the situation.
Western-state officials are now caught between a desire to calm their residents - and yet not appear to stoke any conspiracy theories.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott already has asked the State Guard to monitor the training exercises, after officials faced worried residents at a packed town hall meeting.
This alone triggered accusations that the Republican governor is "pandering to idiots."
On Monday, the governor defended his actions. "There was, frankly, an overreaction to the simple fact that someone has to be in charge with gathering and disseminating information," said Abbott, speaking to reporters. "We stepped in to play that role, which is a role to be applauded."
On Tuesday, Texas Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert also released a lengthy statement saying his office has been "inundated" with calls on the matter.
"This military practice has some concerned that the U.S. Army is preparing for modern-day martial law," he said. "Certainly, I can understand these concerns."
At the same time, Gohmert said he understands why military officials want to test whether Special Forces groups can move around a civilian population and handle various threat scenarios.
Gohmert explained that his concerns stem from the way the military is approaching the exercise. He cited a widely circulated map which details the seven states that are part of the exercise - California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado and Texas. The map has Utah and Texas colored red and labels them "hostile." It labels other states as "permissive," leaning hostile" and "leaning friendly."
Gohmert said he was "rather appalled" that the "hostile" areas "have a Republican majority, `cling to their guns and religion,' and believe in the sanctity of the United States Constitution."
He called this an "affront" to residents there and urged the military to change its approach and tone. "The map of the exercise needs to change, the names on the map need to change, and the tone of the exercise needs to be completely revamped so the federal government is not intentionally practicing war against its own states," he said.
And Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, a Republican presidential candidate, told Bloomberg he's reached out to the Pentagon to "inquire about this exercise." He said he has no reason to doubt the Pentagon's assurances, but he understands residents' concerns - and backs Abbott's actions.
But the White House and Pentagon are pushing back. Last week, White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said he has "no idea what [Abbott is] thinking."
"In no way will the constitutional rights or civil liberties of any American citizen be infringed upon while this exercise is being conducted," Earnest said.
Pentagon spokesman Col. Steve Warren likewise said it "poses no threat" to civil liberties.
"This is a several weeks long training exercise with the purpose to refine the skills of our special operations forces," he said, while batting back "strange Internet conspiracy theories" and "wild speculation" about the operation.
Special Operations Command said in a March press release that the exercise, from July 15 through Sept. 15, will only take place on "pre-coordinated" public and private lands - with permission from landowners and officials. Much of it would be in "remote areas," though residents may see an uptick in "vehicle and military air traffic and its associated noise."
An official with Special Operations Command also told Fox 13 Salt Lake City that the purpose was to replicate "potential terrain" soldiers might find themselves in overseas. As for labeling states like Utah "hostile," the official said that was part of the design. "It is fictional and is not intended to represent any belief that the state of Utah is hostile," the official said.
The politics have gotten tricky for western state lawmakers, however, as it puts them between concerned residents and America's soldiers.
In Texas, Democratic Party Deputy Executive Director Manny Garcia called on Abbott to apologize to the military, accusing the governor of giving "credence to conspiracy theorists by ordering the Texas State Guard to monitor U.S. military operations."
Meanwhile, Chuck Norris, a.k.a. "Walker, Texas Ranger," is backing up the governor.
Writing on the conservative website WorldNetDaily, he said: "Concerned Texans and Americans are in no way calling into question our brave and courageous men and women in uniform. They are merely following orders. What's under question are those who are pulling the strings at the top of Jade Helm 15 back in Washington. The U.S. government says, `It's just a training exercise.' But I'm not sure the term `just' has any reference to reality when the government uses it."
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/05/06/jade-helm-military-exercise-causing-political-firestorm-in-texas-western-states/?intcmp=latestnews
A massive military exercise planned in states across the American West has touched off a political firestorm, with several top Texas officials now questioning the military's plans - if only to calm the Internet and constituent furor surrounding it.
The seven-state war simulation exercise, known as "Jade Helm 15," is planned for this summer. It involves training exercises on private and public land - while such exercises are hardly unique, even the military acknowledges the "size and scope" of this one sets it apart.
While the White House and Pentagon are downplaying concerns, this hasn't stopped a barrage of blogs and tweets warning about whether the federal government is preparing for "martial law." Even actor Chuck Norris is keeping his "eyes of a ranger" on the situation.
Western-state officials are now caught between a desire to calm their residents - and yet not appear to stoke any conspiracy theories.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott already has asked the State Guard to monitor the training exercises, after officials faced worried residents at a packed town hall meeting.
This alone triggered accusations that the Republican governor is "pandering to idiots."
On Monday, the governor defended his actions. "There was, frankly, an overreaction to the simple fact that someone has to be in charge with gathering and disseminating information," said Abbott, speaking to reporters. "We stepped in to play that role, which is a role to be applauded."
On Tuesday, Texas Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert also released a lengthy statement saying his office has been "inundated" with calls on the matter.
"This military practice has some concerned that the U.S. Army is preparing for modern-day martial law," he said. "Certainly, I can understand these concerns."
At the same time, Gohmert said he understands why military officials want to test whether Special Forces groups can move around a civilian population and handle various threat scenarios.
Gohmert explained that his concerns stem from the way the military is approaching the exercise. He cited a widely circulated map which details the seven states that are part of the exercise - California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado and Texas. The map has Utah and Texas colored red and labels them "hostile." It labels other states as "permissive," leaning hostile" and "leaning friendly."
Gohmert said he was "rather appalled" that the "hostile" areas "have a Republican majority, `cling to their guns and religion,' and believe in the sanctity of the United States Constitution."
He called this an "affront" to residents there and urged the military to change its approach and tone. "The map of the exercise needs to change, the names on the map need to change, and the tone of the exercise needs to be completely revamped so the federal government is not intentionally practicing war against its own states," he said.
And Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, a Republican presidential candidate, told Bloomberg he's reached out to the Pentagon to "inquire about this exercise." He said he has no reason to doubt the Pentagon's assurances, but he understands residents' concerns - and backs Abbott's actions.
But the White House and Pentagon are pushing back. Last week, White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said he has "no idea what [Abbott is] thinking."
"In no way will the constitutional rights or civil liberties of any American citizen be infringed upon while this exercise is being conducted," Earnest said.
Pentagon spokesman Col. Steve Warren likewise said it "poses no threat" to civil liberties.
"This is a several weeks long training exercise with the purpose to refine the skills of our special operations forces," he said, while batting back "strange Internet conspiracy theories" and "wild speculation" about the operation.
Special Operations Command said in a March press release that the exercise, from July 15 through Sept. 15, will only take place on "pre-coordinated" public and private lands - with permission from landowners and officials. Much of it would be in "remote areas," though residents may see an uptick in "vehicle and military air traffic and its associated noise."
An official with Special Operations Command also told Fox 13 Salt Lake City that the purpose was to replicate "potential terrain" soldiers might find themselves in overseas. As for labeling states like Utah "hostile," the official said that was part of the design. "It is fictional and is not intended to represent any belief that the state of Utah is hostile," the official said.
The politics have gotten tricky for western state lawmakers, however, as it puts them between concerned residents and America's soldiers.
In Texas, Democratic Party Deputy Executive Director Manny Garcia called on Abbott to apologize to the military, accusing the governor of giving "credence to conspiracy theorists by ordering the Texas State Guard to monitor U.S. military operations."
Meanwhile, Chuck Norris, a.k.a. "Walker, Texas Ranger," is backing up the governor.
Writing on the conservative website WorldNetDaily, he said: "Concerned Texans and Americans are in no way calling into question our brave and courageous men and women in uniform. They are merely following orders. What's under question are those who are pulling the strings at the top of Jade Helm 15 back in Washington. The U.S. government says, `It's just a training exercise.' But I'm not sure the term `just' has any reference to reality when the government uses it."
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Update! Military Convoy with Microwave Weapons !
serf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqVHHF-SuCk0 -
quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
not in the US they haven't.
9/11, Oklahoma, Sandy Hook, Boston Bombing just to name a few.
Right, and if I recall correctly the Easter Bunny, Santa Clause and Father Time were all there doing their thing too.[:o)]0 -
More Government militarization of Police forces and getting ready for the NWO takeover with The UN.
serf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lbmKnhmow4
To top it off the media has been restricted from any kind of embedded reporting to provide Transparency for the drills.
Now you can add this drill to the long list of domestic training exercises that have occurred so far this year. FEMA Camp Roundup drills in Florida, martial law training in California, Marines Prepping for Riot Control in Virginia and of course the mother of all drills JADE HELM.
This is another glaring example of the militarization of local police nationwide who have received nearly half a billion dollars in military equipment from the department of defense.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by serf
Update! Military Convoy with Microwave Weapons !
serf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqVHHF-SuCk
Uhhhhh....how do you know they are microwave weapons, serf ?
Sound cannons and Microwave generators are crowd control devices, I believe it's indeed a microwave generator device.
serf
http://rt.com/news/weapon-us-microwave-cannon-363/
The US military say this weapon's injury risk is far lower than other weapons like rubber bullets or pepper spray. The ray does not cause cancer or exacerbate existing cancer, nor does it causes fertility problems or birth defects. That is according to Stephanie Miller, with the biological effects branch of the Air Force Research Laboratory as quoted by Stars and Stripes web edition0 -
If they were to start building the big shower houses and crematoriums people will deny it's happening just like they did last time? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
not in the US they haven't.
9/11, Oklahoma, Sandy Hook, Boston Bombing just to name a few.
Right, and if I recall correctly the Easter Bunny, Santa Clause and Father Time were all there doing their thing too.[:o)]
Ignoring the facts of the matter does not chance the facts of the matter. Further when someone demands another member qualify something and it's done but the result is what we see with your posts why should I entertain these demands?
Do you come here for discussion or just to cause chaos in discourse?0 -
quote:Originally posted by serf
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by serf
Update! Military Convoy with Microwave Weapons !
serf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqVHHF-SuCk
Uhhhhh....how do you know they are microwave weapons, serf ?
Sound cannons and Microwave generators are crowd control devices, I believe it's indeed a microwave generator device.
serf
http://rt.com/news/weapon-us-microwave-cannon-363/
The US military say this weapon's injury risk is far lower than other weapons like rubber bullets or pepper spray. The ray does not cause cancer or exacerbate existing cancer, nor does it causes fertility problems or birth defects. That is according to Stephanie Miller, with the biological effects branch of the Air Force Research Laboratory as quoted by Stars and Stripes web edition
This things have a lot of exposed hardware on top of the vehicles. A molotov cocktail with some styrofoam melted by the gas inside would do wonders on them if you can get one on the target with any chance of living to do so.
Assuming the people behind it are engaged in forcing tyranny on the people and it's not just a training mission.0 -
Does anyone put it past Obama to intentionally bring ISIS into the country?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsCPD05qUts0 -
UN trucks all over the place. What is up? Think maybe this guy's speculation is onto something?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pJ6Y4gdjAc0 -
quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
UN trucks all over the place. What is up? Think maybe this guy's speculation is onto something?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pJ6Y4gdjAc
Well those motorcycle gangs sure help their cause when they had a shoot out here in Texas! Gun violence by a bunch of white want'a be's!
They sure ain't no minute men fighting a just cause for sure! Obama could get some traction out of this one!
serf
9 dead in Texas biker brawl
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/17/us/texas-shooting/index.html
Gunfire erupted Sunday among rival biker gangs in Waco, Texas, leaving at least nine people dead, according to police.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by serf
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by serf
Update! Military Convoy with Microwave Weapons !
serf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqVHHF-SuCk
Uhhhhh....how do you know they are microwave weapons, serf ?
Sound cannons and Microwave generators are crowd control devices, I believe it's indeed a microwave generator device.
serf
http://rt.com/news/weapon-us-microwave-cannon-363/
The US military say this weapon's injury risk is far lower than other weapons like rubber bullets or pepper spray. The ray does not cause cancer or exacerbate existing cancer, nor does it causes fertility problems or birth defects. That is according to Stephanie Miller, with the biological effects branch of the Air Force Research Laboratory as quoted by Stars and Stripes web edition
My question was how you knew the photos you claim were microwave weapons were actually what you claimed.
Don't obfuscate.
Sure looks liked the same type of reflector on top what's on line in pictures but I not for sure however it does not matter.The government has build them and put them into place and the sheple will get fried soon enough.
The whole nation is becoming a cess pool of multiculturalism and the economy is going down the tubes to get us ready for The NWO and it's just beginning to manifest how They are going to get humans to comply!
Watch the humans continuously and track their every move and eliminate any trouble makers who can't or won't follow their rule of law which they dictate under some all knowing all powerful elite of masters of the universe with technology. The Georgia Guide stones is what they envision in my opinion .
serf
Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
Unite humanity with a living new language.
Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Balance personal rights with social duties.
Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
not in the US they haven't.
9/11, Oklahoma, Sandy Hook, Boston Bombing just to name a few.
Right, and if I recall correctly the Easter Bunny, Santa Clause and Father Time were all there doing their thing too.[:o)]
Ignoring the facts of the matter does not chance the facts of the matter. Further when someone demands another member qualify something and it's done but the result is what we see with your posts why should I entertain these demands?
Do you come here for discussion or just to cause chaos in discourse?
Facts? hahahahahahahaha. Good one. I am more than happy to have discussion when there is something to actually discuss. Just check out any of my thousands of posts.0 -
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Virtually all military communications are microwave now, serf.
As all air defense radar.
But it's your "opinion" that any microwave antenna is a microwave crowd control weapon ?
Are you on the red list, or the blue list ?
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Laugh while you can wise guy! Our Government is corrupt and I put nothing past them including declaring marital law with false flags operations and their financial system will fail miserable with funny money soon.
Have you Republicans found those WMD's in Iraqi yet? Maybe Isis can find one,for you!
serf
A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose their virtue then will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader.
Samuel Adams
http://www.survivalplus.com/selected/E-Bombs-Part-1-of-4.htm
Knock out electric power, computers and telecommunication and you've destroyed the foundation of modern society. In the age of Third World-sponsored terrorism, the E-bomb is the great equalizer.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
"You republicans " ?
Look. man, if you post some goofy crap don't be surprised if somebody calls you on it.
Why complain ?
Complain? What are you writing about because someone posted a microwave device article and called it a something it was not or is it really what they the website author says it is a weapon? You proved or disprove nothing.
And with that you ran with it knowing that the government does have these devices in place before and will be in place again!
serf
http://jnlwp.defense.gov/Portals/50/Documents/Press_Room/Annual_Reviews_Reports/2013/DoD_Non-Lethal_Weapons_Program_Annual_Review_11.19.2012_HTML_format_v1.pdf
https://indypendent.org/2012/02/15/sonic-cannon-pain-ray-and-irony-american-revolution
Give me a break you don't have a Gotcha moment at all dude.I even said I don't know for sure.0 -
I'd like to point out some facts
If you add up the math on all the issues with Jade Helm factored in you can see it's a very dangerous time.
1. Gov't ammo buying spree
2. NDAA and the detention clause
3. EO's on the books
4. The mad dash for gun control
5. A president who ignores the limitations on his power (Blatantly)
6. A President in contempt of court
7. A president who is not eligible for the office he holds
8. A president who is on record saying he will change America.
9. Wal Mart Closures and rumors of Detention camps.
10. Detention Camps already part of the public record.
11. The Coming end of the President's Term of Office
12. Obvious manipulations of race Leaders by Government (They are on Gov't pay rolls)
13. Hundreds of thousands of FEMA incineration coffins.
14. Import and or transport of (Too many) Foreign military hardware with UN markings.
OH WAIT CAN I ADD ONE?
15. A president who lies thought his rotten teeth! (Can I get an AMEN?)
We've had military operations on U.S. Soil going back years but never with the added points I have here plus more I am forgetting.
PS, the army has put out a new call for hiring detention specialist just this month in June.
SO how many of you plan to roll over when they come for your guns and you? Don't think you will ever leave the camps alive.0 -
looks like i,ll be ok with my 3000 shares of tin foil after all. my myopic. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by eastbank
looks like i,ll be ok with my 3000 shares of tin foil after all. my myopic.
Are you saying for example that you believe the President's Birth Certificate is real?0 -
anything studying the submissiveness of the American citizen cannot indicate a gathering for happy meals at McDonalds...conspiracy theories aside consider obummer directly stating his intentions and America snoozing thru 2 elections 0
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