From the Bundy Family
In a time such as this, how can one ever express correctly the feelings within. Our family morns for
the lives that were taken. We are deeply saddened by these events. Our thoughts of concern are
for those who were so hastily left behind. Wives left without husbands and children without fathers, to love, raise and protect. Memories may be all they have to sustain them through the lonely nights ahead. What is a mother to say when a child asks; "where is daddy?". We pray that the aching hearts of the families will be filled with the knowledge that God knows your pains. His love for you is real and tangible. He will morn and sorrow with you while sustaining you through these times. In the end, our Eternal Heavenly Father will make right all wrongs.
The horrific acts of these two individuals must be in no way condoned or repeated. In no way are these action the answer to our nation challenges. To act in this way is to further the problems, placing more pain and sorrows on the individual families. The concerning problems this nation faces should not be meet with violence or revenge. These problems cannot be resolved quickly by any one individual or a small group.
As a Christian nation we have been taught to "Love our neighbor as ourselves". What other law do we need? If each individual, both the governed and the governing would live by this simple rule, this nation would flourish again in peace and prosperity and be once again an ensign to the world. If adherence to the "golden rule" was the commitment of each person; the mother would not fear for violence upon her child, the locksmith would need to find another occupation, the agriculturalist would not have to fight to sustain his way of life, the government would be small and each individual comprising the government would not seek to take or control that which another has built.
What we know of Jerad and Amanda Miller is they came to the protest sight near the ranch, we do not know when they arrived. They were at the protest site for a few days. Other protesters began to express concern to the State militias of Jerad's aggressive nature and volatility. After some discussion among themselves and communication with the Millers it was determined that it was best if the MIllers leave. The Millers were asked to leave and given a few hundred dollars by one of the militia leaders. The money was given because the Millers said they had sold everything and had nothing to live on. The Bundy family was unaware of any of these actions until this week.
No detail can ever explain why the Millers did what they did. The pain of their actions do not change whether they were at Wal-Mart or Target. The Millers actions do not add to or take away from the Bundy position that the land they ranch on is State land not Federal land. The Bundy's honor federal, state and county governments in performing the duties as outlined in the Constitution of the United States. The Bundy's along with hundreds of protesters will always be grateful to the Metro officers who finally came to our rescue. Deputies like Tom Roberts, Shanan Kelly, Bret Empey and Mark McEwen. These men have saved lives and deserve to be honored, not shot at.
The Bundy family asks that we focus on lightening the sorrows of the families that are so tragically effected by this event. The feeling of our hearts are with you.
Sincerely,
The Bundy Family
the lives that were taken. We are deeply saddened by these events. Our thoughts of concern are
for those who were so hastily left behind. Wives left without husbands and children without fathers, to love, raise and protect. Memories may be all they have to sustain them through the lonely nights ahead. What is a mother to say when a child asks; "where is daddy?". We pray that the aching hearts of the families will be filled with the knowledge that God knows your pains. His love for you is real and tangible. He will morn and sorrow with you while sustaining you through these times. In the end, our Eternal Heavenly Father will make right all wrongs.
The horrific acts of these two individuals must be in no way condoned or repeated. In no way are these action the answer to our nation challenges. To act in this way is to further the problems, placing more pain and sorrows on the individual families. The concerning problems this nation faces should not be meet with violence or revenge. These problems cannot be resolved quickly by any one individual or a small group.
As a Christian nation we have been taught to "Love our neighbor as ourselves". What other law do we need? If each individual, both the governed and the governing would live by this simple rule, this nation would flourish again in peace and prosperity and be once again an ensign to the world. If adherence to the "golden rule" was the commitment of each person; the mother would not fear for violence upon her child, the locksmith would need to find another occupation, the agriculturalist would not have to fight to sustain his way of life, the government would be small and each individual comprising the government would not seek to take or control that which another has built.
What we know of Jerad and Amanda Miller is they came to the protest sight near the ranch, we do not know when they arrived. They were at the protest site for a few days. Other protesters began to express concern to the State militias of Jerad's aggressive nature and volatility. After some discussion among themselves and communication with the Millers it was determined that it was best if the MIllers leave. The Millers were asked to leave and given a few hundred dollars by one of the militia leaders. The money was given because the Millers said they had sold everything and had nothing to live on. The Bundy family was unaware of any of these actions until this week.
No detail can ever explain why the Millers did what they did. The pain of their actions do not change whether they were at Wal-Mart or Target. The Millers actions do not add to or take away from the Bundy position that the land they ranch on is State land not Federal land. The Bundy's honor federal, state and county governments in performing the duties as outlined in the Constitution of the United States. The Bundy's along with hundreds of protesters will always be grateful to the Metro officers who finally came to our rescue. Deputies like Tom Roberts, Shanan Kelly, Bret Empey and Mark McEwen. These men have saved lives and deserve to be honored, not shot at.
The Bundy family asks that we focus on lightening the sorrows of the families that are so tragically effected by this event. The feeling of our hearts are with you.
Sincerely,
The Bundy Family
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Coincidence? I think not. 0 -
You lay with dogs you get fleas. Pure and simple. Good that the Bundy family is sending their condolences to the families of the policemen who were gunned down by these two loons, and the brave CCW guy who tried to intervene. 0 -
Too bad that they were not taught to pay their bills as others do. If they had been taught that....there would have been no standoff. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by DaveJ
Too bad that they were not taught to pay their bills as others do. If they had been taught that....there would have been no standoff.
What Bills?
Because they refused to cave to the BLM in the 90s over the Turtles, the BLM revoked they're grazing permits. They believed that the Land did not belong to the Government and continued to graze the Cattle.0 -
And we are back to had the Ukrainian farmers simply met their grain quotas no one would have had to have starved to death. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by wiplash Originally posted by DaveJ
Too bad that they were not taught to pay their bills as others do. If they had been taught that....there would have been no standoff.
What Bills?
Because they refused to cave to the BLM in the 90s over the Turtles, the BLM revoked they're grazing permits. They believed that the Land did not belong to the Government and continued to graze the Cattle.
What they chose to believe had nothing to do with reality....the government did own the land. They are just a bunch of deadbeat misfits.0 -
quote:Originally posted by DaveJ
quote:Originally posted by wiplashOriginally posted by DaveJ
Too bad that they were not taught to pay their bills as others do. If they had been taught that....there would have been no standoff.
What Bills?
Because they refused to cave to the BLM in the 90s over the Turtles, the BLM revoked they're grazing permits. They believed that the Land did not belong to the Government and continued to graze the Cattle.
What they chose to believe had nothing to do with reality....the government did own the land. They are just a bunch of deadbeat misfits.
No, We The People own the land.
We don't have Kings and Queens yet.0 -
We the people are supposed to own the land and all resources but when a resource is going to be exploited who gets the money? They give it all away to the agencies handling it with bonus's and new toys.
What do we peasants get out of it? A job working the work if we are lucky. Contrast this with oil in Libya. The Col cut everyone in much like Palin did in Alaska for that state's citizens. Libyans got free educations, help with buying cars and homes.
Here in America we get nothing. It's BS if we are to say we the people own the land. The Government sucks every penny up and then can't even take care of our vets.
This place stopped being a greatest nation on earth decades ago. The only thing still great about it is the Constitution and bill of rights but the Government is taking that too dooming us all to poverty and the outright eventual destruction of the United States.0 -
quote:Originally posted by wiplash
quote:Originally posted by DaveJ
quote:Originally posted by wiplashOriginally posted by DaveJ
Too bad that they were not taught to pay their bills as others do. If they had been taught that....there would have been no standoff.
What Bills?
Because they refused to cave to the BLM in the 90s over the Turtles, the BLM revoked they're grazing permits. They believed that the Land did not belong to the Government and continued to graze the Cattle.
What they chose to believe had nothing to do with reality....the government did own the land. They are just a bunch of deadbeat misfits.
No, We The People own the land.
We don't have Kings and Queens yet.
Yes, we the people own the land. Those deadbeats owe me, you and the rest of WE for grazing on the land.0 -
We have not been allowed to own anything for decades. Made mortgage payments for 30 years, paid the house off, think you own it? Think again. Try missing a single year's property tax payment. 0 -
We are all care takers....[:o)] 0 -
"Try missing a single year's property tax payment."
From a landowner who pays a significant amount of property taxes on land I've already paid for, the taxes aren't a ransom on the land. The taxes are your portion the budget required to maintain roads, schools, and law enforcement(among other things). If you expect all weather roads(or ANY roads), any sort of public infrastructure, local health care, or fire/police assistance, you should expect to help pay for those things.
I don't know the Bundy family but I do feel they were wrong in their previous use of public land w/o paying the fees. The question is not whether the grazing was on Federal or State land, but that the Bundy family did not, could not, or would not either comply or work out some sort of compromise.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Mobuck
"Try missing a single year's property tax payment."
From a landowner who pays a significant amount of property taxes on land I've already paid for, the taxes aren't a ransom on the land. The taxes are your portion the budget required to maintain roads, schools, and law enforcement(among other things). If you expect all weather roads(or ANY roads), any sort of public infrastructure, local health care, or fire/police assistance, you should expect to help pay for those things.
I don't know the Bundy family but I do feel they were wrong in their previous use of public land w/o paying the fees. The question is not whether the grazing was on Federal or State land, but that the Bundy family did not, could not, or would not either comply or work out some sort of compromise.
Again, the Bundys were paying they're fees, until the BLM black mailed all of the other Ranchers with the Turtle Farce, forcing them to quit.
The Bundys called they're bluff.
The Bundys0 -
quote:Originally posted by Mobuck
"Try missing a single year's property tax payment."
From a landowner who pays a significant amount of property taxes on land I've already paid for, the taxes aren't a ransom on the land. The taxes are your portion the budget required to maintain roads, schools, and law enforcement(among other things). If you expect all weather roads(or ANY roads), any sort of public infrastructure, local health care, or fire/police assistance, you should expect to help pay for those things.
I don't know the Bundy family but I do feel they were wrong in their previous use of public land w/o paying the fees. The question is not whether the grazing was on Federal or State land, but that the Bundy family did not, could not, or would not either comply or work out some sort of compromise.
I already "help pay for those things" to the tune of a 7% tax on everything I purchase and a 6% tax skimmed from the top of each pay check, not to mention the annual ad valorem taxes on my motor vehicle license tags and a plethora of other embedded state and local taxes. Highway projects are funded by the 35% federal income tax.
All that is beside the point, which is that if you do not pay your annual property tax your property will be confiscated by government.0 -
"I already "help pay for those things" to the tune of a 7% tax on everything I purchase and a 6% tax skimmed from the top of each pay check, not to mention the annual ad valorem taxes on my motor vehicle license tags and a plethora of other embedded state and local taxes. Highway projects are funded by the 35% federal income tax."
Are any of those paid directly to the local government? My property taxes go directly to the county coffers--not the State or Federal.
I'm not a fan of high property taxes but if you want good roads, good schools, or whatever, you've got to expect to pay for them. What I don't care for is the "townies" voting in a tax levy that ends up costing the farmers exponentially more than the townies.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Mobuck
"I already "help pay for those things" to the tune of a 7% tax on everything I purchase and a 6% tax skimmed from the top of each pay check, not to mention the annual ad valorem taxes on my motor vehicle license tags and a plethora of other embedded state and local taxes. Highway projects are funded by the 35% federal income tax."
Are any of those paid directly to the local government? My property taxes go directly to the county coffers--not the State or Federal.
I'm not a fan of high property taxes but if you want good roads, good schools, or whatever, you've got to expect to pay for them. What I don't care for is the "townies" voting in a tax levy that ends up costing the farmers exponentially more than the townies.
The thing is you can still pay for all those things you list as benefits to the community without the threat of loss of family property. The fact that they have tied the payment plan to siezure of the land is the problem. Many of the things you list are in fact already paid with other taxes.0 -
Here I was thinking this might have pictures of Peg or Kelli![:D] 0
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