UK Doctors Call for Urgent Return of Covid Restrictions > New Strain Coming?
Well here we go again! I wonder how the marketplace is going to react ? Is it just more hype?
serf
- The call comes amid a high level of infections in the country and as hospitals are seeing an influx of Covid patients.
- Health leaders warned on Tuesday that the U.K. risks “stumbling into a winter crisis.”
- Making matters worse, U.K. experts are watching a new mutation of the virus closely.
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When are these nanny-state dictators going to admit that restrictions do very little to nothing to impede the virus?
It is very difficult for a thinking person to now believe that there is is anyone within the power bureaucracy that actually thinks these steps are for the good of the people.
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Don McManus to admit that is to give up the control they currently wield. They will never.
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Mr. Perfect: 33170395201563/comments/33170435251995
@Don McManus to admit that is to give up the control they currently wield. They will never.
While that is a big part of it, Mr. P, I think there is also a refusal to accept the fact that almost all of the restrictive steps that were taken did very little. The UK and the US through their economies into turmoil to very little effect, and such an admission would discredit the science community as well as the power hungry.
Even if the initial response of heavy-handed restrictions were with good intent, once it was shown that lockdowns and masking had almost no statistical effect, honest scientists would have changed their tune. The politics we have today masquerading as science is preventing such an admission.
Fact 1: The magical Covid has killed 100s of thousands of people.
Fact 2: The actions of our governments did not save a whole lot of lives, but crippled our economy and in that respect, damaged many more people than it helped, not even considering the great damage 6+ trillion in spending will do to our progeny.
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Well the Numbers in SC are certainly way way down after folks got the vaccine. Yesterday just 2 deaths and approx 66 per cent vaccinated.
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select-fire: 33170395201563/comments/33170413960859
Well the Numbers in SC are certainly way way down after folks got the vaccine. Yesterday just 2 deaths and approx 66 per cent vaccinated.
SC has reported 47 deaths today already. Vaccines have obviously failed.
Of course they haven't failed. All evidence points to the expected result that vaccines or whatever this MRNA treatment is, is keeping the number of hospitalizations and deaths down. It has not kept the number of infections down, as we are experiencing the most active cases of the virus over the past couple of weeks that we ever have seen, and the death counts are similar to the first surge of the virus a year and a half ago.
Thankfully deaths are roughly half of what they were during the worst of it at the beginning of this year, but a simple look at the charts tracking infections shows a cyclical nature to this thing that will probably continue.
Assuming that the vaccine is solving the problem is logical, I guess, but in looking at the number of active infections over time, one simply cannot make such an assumption.
Here is a chart for South Carolina.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/south-carolina/
Please tell me when the vaccines started winning the war against Covid.
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Sooner or later the clue light is going to illuminate on the people and they will tell the Covid creeps to * off. I worry more about being struck by lightning,
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Don McManus: 33170395201563/comments/33170391767323
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11300549#Comment_11300549
SC has reported 47 deaths today already. Vaccines have obviously failed.
Of course they haven't failed. All evidence points to the expected result that vaccines or whatever this MRNA treatment is, is keeping the number of hospitalizations and deaths down. It has not kept the number of infections down, as we are experiencing the most active cases of the virus over the past couple of weeks that we ever have seen, and the death counts are similar to the first surge of the virus a year and a half ago.
Thankfully deaths are roughly half of what they were during the worst of it at the beginning of this year, but a simple look at the charts tracking infections shows a cyclical nature to this thing that will probably continue.
Assuming that the vaccine is solving the problem is logical, I guess, but in looking at the number of active infections over time, one simply cannot make such an assumption.
Here is a chart for South Carolina.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/south-carolina/
Please tell me when the vaccines started winning the war against Covid.
It's hard to tell if the MRNA therapy is what's helping or that health care providers have just gotten better at treating the infected. Possibly both, to differing degrees. I keep hearing that India basically wiped out the disease by treating everyone with the famous "horse dewormer"... the people variety no doubt.
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I took the Dominion shot..just after 3 a.m. this morning I had over 81 million shots..I wonder if I will need the booster..hmmmmm.
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There will forever be a 'new strain' showing up and a 'shot' to go with it. Like the 'flu' of the past 20 years, you need a shot for the 'new' variation every year.
Talked to one of my employees yesterday. He's been sick. 3 doses of 'KungFlu" juice and then 10-12 days ago the typical annual ???flu shot. YUP, sick as a dog for 5 days with (wait for it) THE FLU.
When are people going to learn that this is all conjured up to get folks in the habit of blindly following government suggestions and unfounded/unproven claims?
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it cant be fixed it is here
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Don McManus: 33170395201563/comments/33170391767323
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11300549#Comment_11300549
SC has reported 47 deaths today already. Vaccines have obviously failed.
Of course they haven't failed. All evidence points to the expected result that vaccines or whatever this MRNA treatment is, is keeping the number of hospitalizations and deaths down. It has not kept the number of infections down, as we are experiencing the most active cases of the virus over the past couple of weeks that we ever have seen, and the death counts are similar to the first surge of the virus a year and a half ago.
Thankfully deaths are roughly half of what they were during the worst of it at the beginning of this year, but a simple look at the charts tracking infections shows a cyclical nature to this thing that will probably continue.
Assuming that the vaccine is solving the problem is logical, I guess, but in looking at the number of active infections over time, one simply cannot make such an assumption.
Here is a chart for South Carolina.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/south-carolina/
Please tell me when the vaccines started winning the war against Covid.
I love it when folks pull up the data. Only shows how deadly the virus is, Yet folks refuse to get vaccinated. The un cola folks are the ones dying the most. In fact 11 times more likely to die than un vaccinated. So I don't give a rats behind if folks don't want vaccinated. The gene pool will cleanse itself.
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More deaths in SC during this month and last when the "vax" has been available than last year during the same months when it wasn't. This clearly explains how the "vax" is preventing deaths. Wait... ummmm.
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Mr. Perfect: 33170395201563/comments/33170416490011
More deaths in SC during this month and last when the "vax" has been available than last year during the same months when it wasn't. This clearly explains how the "vax" is preventing deaths. Wait... ummmm.
You need to pay attention. The majority of those deaths are from non vaccinated.
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select-fire: 33170395201563/comments/33170398661915
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11300788#Comment_11300788
You need to pay attention. The majority of those deaths are from non vaccinated.
You need to pay attention. There was exactly no one vaxxed last year. Now with what, 70% vaxxed, the numbers of deaths are rising? If I follow your logic the vaccinated are killing the unvaxxed. Is it that you don't understand charts, math, or is it healthcare?
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Logic from the experts
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status
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select-fire: 33170395201563/comments/33170437853211
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11300567#Comment_11300567
I love it when folks pull up the data. Only shows how deadly the virus is, Yet folks refuse to get vaccinated. The un cola folks are the ones dying the most. In fact 11 times more likely to die than un vaccinated. So I don't give a rats behind if folks don't want vaccinated. The gene pool will cleanse itself.
44 more today, S-F. Your sociopath tendencies not withstanding, the picture is bigger than you are painting.
More infections now than ever, yet a sizable majority of Americans have been treated with the MRNA system.
What does this tell us?
The MRNA treatments appear to help keep people from dying (though more and more people who have had this treatment are dying). Were the MRNA treatment to behave like a true vaccine, we would be at herd immunity by now. The fact that we are not means there is something wrong with the treatment, or at a minimum, we need to fundamentally re-evaluate how view this MRNA treatment.
It also tells us that it is highly likely that treated people who do not know they are infected (because the MRNA treatment suppresses symptoms) are the primary carrier of this disease at this point in time. Some of us suspected this a couple of months ago when the number of cases began raising again. Now it is fairly certain that these suspicions were correct.
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11x greater to die than if vaccinated. That is what it tells me.
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Somebody told you that. Was it the Faucist?
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Don McManus: 33170395201563/comments/33170452244251
Somebody told you that. Was it the Faucist?
Same as link above Read below the graph
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status
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So it was the Faucists.
Thank you.
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I know not what course others may take. But as for me, give me liberty, or give me death.
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Yepp... like my doctor said..if you're afraid of the virus... take the vaccine... it's entirely up to you... for better or worse...
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The major problem is the unvaccinated are being discriminated against.
It's against the law to discriminate against blacks, homosexuals, transvestites, and any number of 'other' deviants. Why is it OK to discriminate against folks who chose not to receive some unknown, experimental juice jab?
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Mobuck: 33170395201563/comments/33170445082907
The major problem is the unvaccinated are being discriminated against.
It's against the law to discriminate against blacks, homosexuals, transvestites, and any number of 'other' deviants. Why is it OK to discriminate against folks who chose not to receive some unknown, experimental juice jab?
Because you are property to be controlled. Only the 2a standing in the way for now. 2a is the next plandemic.
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MrMag00: 33170395201563/comments/33170445521307
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11302997#Comment_11302997
Because you are property to be controlled. Only the 2a standing in the way for now. 2a is the next plandemic.
Yep and all the investigations on The Wuhan virus are inclusive and it will neve be pinned down as natural or man-made,A perfect weapon is one that cannot be tracked. Red China refuses to cooperate in full disclosure, too.
serf
https://jamiemetzl.com/origins-of-sars-cov-2/
- In 2012, six miners working in a bat-infested copper mine in southern China (Yunnan province) were infected with a bat coronavirus. All of them developed symptoms exactly like COVID-19 symptoms. Three of them died.
- Viral samples taken from the Yunnan miner were taken to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, the only level 4 biosecurity lab in China that was also studying bat coronaviruses.
- The WIV carried out gain of function research, almost certainly on these and a range of related and other samples (which is different than genetically engineering the viruses). Chimeric viruses were likely developed in this process. There has never been a full and public accounting for what viruses are in the WIV sample set and database, and key elements of the database have been taken off line or deleted.
- Given the close relationship of the Chinese Peoples’ Liberation Army (PLA) in the development and construction of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, it is fair to assume a connection between the PLA and the WIV.
Although nothing can be fully conclusive in light of Chinese obfuscation, the continued absence of any meaningful evidence of a zoonotic chain of transmission and mutation in the wild and the accretion of other evidence is pointing increasingly, in my view, toward an accidental lab leak as the most likely origin of COVID-19. Given the extent to which China would benefit from discovering evidence of a transmission in the wild, we can assume Chinese authorities are doing all they can to find this kind of evidence without success. This failure would explain why Chinese officials have recently begun, with little credible evidence, asserting that the outbreak started outside of China.
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Mobuck: 33170395201563/comments/33170445082907
The major problem is the unvaccinated are being discriminated against.
It's against the law to discriminate against blacks, homosexuals, transvestites, and any number of 'other' deviants. Why is it OK to discriminate against folks who chose not to receive some unknown, experimental juice jab?
Monday they took my wife to the hospital by ambulance. She is not doing so well. My daughter drove over two hours from Delaware County, NY to help me. She brought a certificate out to me that stated no vaccination no admittance. She has had both shots but after her allowable one hour she had to go home.
I have been harassed by my wife, my daughter and BIL to get vaccinated. I chose not to. My daughter understands my right to choose. My wife Diane has been my sweetheart for 57 years. I know some will say it is my fault that I can't visit my wife. Also, my hearing is pretty bad. When my daughter had to go home my wife said" Now, I am truly alone".
Maybe to some this is not discrimination but to me it is. ------------------------Ray
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4205raymond: 33170395201563/comments/33170454469147
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11302997#Comment_11302997
Monday they took my wife to the hospital by ambulance. She is not doing so well. My daughter drove over two hours from Delaware County, NY to help me. She brought a certificate out to me that stated no vaccination no admittance. She has had both shots but after her allowable one hour she had to go home.
I have been harassed by my wife, my daughter and BIL to get vaccinated. I chose not to. My daughter understands my right to choose. My wife Diane has been my sweetheart for 57 years. I know some will say it is my fault that I can't visit my wife. Also, my hearing is pretty bad. When my daughter had to go home my wife said" Now, I am truly alone".
Maybe to some this is not discrimination but to me it is. ------------------------Ray
Hopes and prayers that your wife recovers and that your able to spend many more years together.
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Prayers for your wife and hopefully she will be released soon and yes sir it is discrimination!
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wifetrained: 33170395201563/comments/33170469298843
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11303713#Comment_11303713
Hopes and prayers that your wife recovers and that your able to spend many more years together.
Had a Grand Father who died 1918 of The Flu back then.Life is never fair. But I hope the best for you and family,it's not easy to be in this world sometimes.
serf
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4205raymond: 33170395201563/comments/33170454469147
https://forums.gunbroker.com/discussion/comment/11302997#Comment_11302997
Monday they took my wife to the hospital by ambulance. She is not doing so well. My daughter drove over two hours from Delaware County, NY to help me. She brought a certificate out to me that stated no vaccination no admittance. She has had both shots but after her allowable one hour she had to go home.
I have been harassed by my wife, my daughter and BIL to get vaccinated. I chose not to. My daughter understands my right to choose. My wife Diane has been my sweetheart for 57 years. I know some will say it is my fault that I can't visit my wife. Also, my hearing is pretty bad. When my daughter had to go home my wife said" Now, I am truly alone".
Maybe to some this is not discrimination but to me it is. ------------------------Ray
Absolutely discrimination. Not sure if you saw the discussion about giving antihistamines around the 7-8 day time-frame. If not ease read it. Hopefully they are administering monoclonal antibodies. It worked for #3 and her spousal unit.
Prayers for your wife's complete recovery.
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