California registration
Hi, I got a shotgun that was given to me about 20 years ago, never rigisteres. Do I need to do this. Also this is in California
0
-
It depends upon whether you believe in the US Constitution in general and the Second Amendment specifically. 0 -
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean.it was my understanding that registration is just for handguns and rifles. Am I wrong? The familymember hat gave it to me years ago said nothing about paperwork. 0 -
You are fine with it as is. No registration necessary. 0 -
Only handguns and so called "assault weapons" are registered in California. There is no requirement to register any other firearms. 0 -
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Nothing there pertaining to any sort of registration at all.0 -
I would never volutarily tell the go'ment that I have anything. I've bought several firearms in years past and filled out that "yellow form" that BATF requests. However, after seeing all the possibilities that could be reality with the go'ment taking our guns, I've done tons of face-to-face purchases (no paperwork) and sold the ones that BATF had me on record for.
Now I'm BATF free, with exception of my class IIIs.
So, if I were you, I'd never tell Californiacation about the gun.0 -
thanks for the info, it's much appreciated. 0 -
RogueStatesman--those quotes in your signature say alot!! I like 'em!
Courage is fear that has said its prayers ~Dorothy Bernard0 -
quote:Originally posted by Skeedaddy
RogueStatesman--those quotes in your signature say alot!! I like 'em!
Courage is fear that has said its prayers ~Dorothy Bernard
Thank you sir! And tell Ms. Bernard she sure knows what she's talking about! [;)][:D]0 -
quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Nothing there pertaining to any sort of registration at all.
Somebody asks about the law and gets replied to with propaganda. Not helpful.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Ifticar
quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Nothing there pertaining to any sort of registration at all.
Somebody asks about the law and gets replied to with propaganda. Not helpful.
You call it propaganda if you want, we call it history and LAW as set forth by the founding fathers of OUR country. If you do not understand the communistic laws of where you live, then it time to move or do something about it.
DO NOT presume to tell us what the 2nd Amendment says or means until you have read it and understand it.
Lance0 -
quote:Originally posted by Ifticar
quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Nothing there pertaining to any sort of registration at all.
Somebody asks about the law and gets replied to with propaganda. Not helpful.
Ifticar,
Stay in CA. You fit right in. Hell, with an belief system like yours, you may be able to secure a position as a legislator.
You posted a thread not long ago, practically begging folks to change their stance on shipping firearms to CA, then you have the gall to refer to the 2nd Amendment as 'propaganda'. Here you go; straight from your keyboard:
FFLs who will not ship to California are supporting gun control. I am asking all of you buyers in the rest of the country not buy from these dealers who support gun control
Many sellers proudly proclaim that they will not ship guns to California. They seem to think that their support of the the California Gun Control Laws makes them special. They are special. Very special. Their support of California Gun Control laws is a threat to all the nation's gunners. What starts in California often ends up in other states. The smoking Nazis got their start in California 30 years ago. Have they reached your State yet?
The liberals in this state are doing everything they can to limit our Second Amendment Rights. They made the verify-before-shipping laws expressly for the purpose if keeping guns out of California. These FFLs are playing right into their hands. These FFLs are helping the liberals violate our Second Amendment rights.
I have seen some of these proud, gun control supporting FFLs say that it is up to the beleaguered California gun owners to get the laws changed. A few milliseconds of thought would show how ridicules this is. We have no more chance against the liberal juggernaut in this state than you do against liberal juggernaut that have made all those restrictive firearms laws at the federal level.
States all over the Nation are always dealing with liberal attempts to limit our Second Amendment rights. If they see that California's attempt to limit the import of guns is working they may try to duplicate the law. If they do, these Gun Control supporting FFLs will be right there with them supporting the law by not shipping to you. Your best chance of avoiding this is to fight the problem now. Fighte the problem by not dealing with Gun Control supporting FFLs.
I am begging all you gun buyers outside of California to support California gunners and yourself. Support California gunners and your own future gun rights. Please do not do business with any of these gun control supporting FFLs. It may seem like their actions are only hurting California residents but this is not the case. Any support for any Gun Control hurts us all.
The hypocrisy is so thick, you could cut it.
GO POUND SAND.[:(!]
You are getting exactly what you deserve.0 -
+1 wsfiredude.... thought something was OFF the first time I read it, thanks for clearin that up[8D]
Ifticar what part of shall not be infringed do you not get?..........and how do you figure its propaganda, wsfiredude is right![}:)]
oldgeezer sorry to have hijacked your thread but to my knowledge, no, you do not have to register a "family"[;)] gun such as the one you stated. I wouldnt anyway, and Rouge already gave you the spill on that one[:)]0 -
You guys are using the debate tactics of the liberals. You are acting like Olbermann. You are taking my words and twisting into something they were not.
Get off you bandwagon and look at the guy's question.
The guy asked a question about the law. The law may be a crappy law. It may not be a fair law. But it is the law. It is the law that he wants to understand to stay out of jail. Rather than answering the guys question you choose to take a big crap in the middle of the thread.
Preaching about the Second Amendment did nothing to answer the guy's question. Preaching about the Second Amendment did nothing to help keep the guy out of jail. There are probably dozens of threads here where you can preach the gospel. A gospel that I agree with. A gospel that needs to be preached. It is a good gospel but a gospel being preached in the wrong place for the wrong reason. It is also a gospel, which by the way, is being violated by Gun Control FFLs who will not ship to Californians.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Ifticar
You guys are using the debate tactics of the liberals. You are acting like Olbermann. You are taking my words and twisting into something they were not.
Get off you bandwagon and look at the guy's question.
The guy asked a question about the law. The law may be a crappy law. It may not be a fair law. But it is the law. It is the law that he wants to understand to stay out of jail. Rather than answering the guys question you choose to take a big crap in the middle of the thread.
Preaching about the Second Amendment did nothing to answer the guy's question. There are probably dozens of threads here where you can preach to gospel. A gospel that I agree with. A gospel that needs to be preached. A gospel, which by the way, is being violated by Gun Control FFLs who will not ship to Californians.
You Californians screwed up your state no one else . lets put that to bed first[}:)]
Secondly his question has been answered in several posts, You however are another............for lack of a better word I would say troll, yet I am not convinced of that, and you have not proven that so for now you still have the benefit of the doubt! and I mean no offense. But look here the second amendment is real and if you dont believe it and support it you are gonna catch hell around here..... period! Its not the FFLs fault your state makes it so hard to ship to califonia....... heres an Idea..........MOVE the hell outta there, California can break off and sink in the ocean for all alot of people care right now[:)]0 -
Well is the 2A gospel or propaganda? Make up your mind, or does that depend on what day of the week it is?[B)] 0 -
I have said all I am going to say in this thread.
Carry on.0 -
quote:Originally posted by idahordnk
The liberal majority of You Californians screwed up your state no one else . lets put that to bed first[}:)]
Fixed it for you!0 -
quote:Originally posted by Ifticar
I have said all I am going to say in this thread.
Carry on.
Wish you would do that on ALL the other threads also! You need to get over your cranial/rectum inversion and realize his question was answered, more than once. You spew your crap and try to tell us it smells like roses, when we can tell it don't.
Go away little troll, go back into the closet and be happy.0 -
This is simply another example of what is wrong with our country: people who believe that the US Constitution is "propaganda." 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
This is simply another example of what is wrong with our country: people who believe that the US Constitution is "propaganda."
Yep, truly sad.0 -
quote:Preaching about the Second Amendment did nothing to answer the guy's question. Preaching about the Second Amendment did nothing to help keep the guy out of jail. There are probably dozens of threads here where you can preach the gospel. A gospel that I agree with. A gospel that needs to be preached. It is a good gospel but a gospel being preached in the wrong place for the wrong reason. It is also a gospel, which by the way, is being violated by Gun Control FFLs who will not ship to Californians.
This statement demonstrates a fundamental ignorance of Amendment II and what it is clearly intended to restrain.
Seems a typical Kali/NRA-esque position.
News-flash.......Amendment II is a restraint on "government" from infringing on the right to keep and bear arms. It has zero bearing on what a private citizen should or can do in this area.
Free individuals are free to sell to another individual or to persons in a particular state, or not.
It is that simple.0 -
quote:Originally posted by lt496
Free individuals are free to sell to another individual or to persons in a particular state, or not.
It is that simple.
Captain,
Agree 100%.
For the life of me, I cannot understand how some folks can take something so simple and unambiguos, and make it complex.
I equate it with attempting to pole vault over mouse turds.
Then again, with many folks, it is not so much their lack of 'understanding' the RTKBA, but rather their lack of acceptance of it and what it means.0 -
quote:Originally posted by wsfiredude
quote:Originally posted by lt496
Free individuals are free to sell to another individual or to persons in a particular state, or not.
It is that simple.
Captain,
Agree 100%.
For the life of me, I cannot understand how some folks can take something so simple and unambiguos, and make it complex.
I equate it with attempting to pole vault over mouse turds.
Then again, with many folks, it is not so much their lack of 'understanding' the RTKBA, but rather their lack of acceptance of it and what it means.
A solid summary Shane. Spot-on.
On a side note, the "moose turd" analogy is a hoot![:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]0 -
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by wsfiredude
quote:Originally posted by lt496
Free individuals are free to sell to another individual or to persons in a particular state, or not.
It is that simple.
Captain,
Agree 100%.
For the life of me, I cannot understand how some folks can take something so simple and unambiguos, and make it complex.
I equate it with attempting to pole vault over mouse turds.
Then again, with many folks, it is not so much their lack of 'understanding' the RTKBA, but rather their lack of acceptance of it and what it means.
A solid summary Shane. Spot-on.
On a side note, the "moose turd" analogy is a hoot![:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]
Thought you might like that one.[:D]0 -
Sir, it is a sad time that we live in when fellow Americans judge and condemn us based on our state of residence. By California law, all guns, other than muzzle loaders and pellet guns have to be registered in the state of Ca. There is and has been a $35.00 back ground check and a 15 day waiting period for any firearm sold or given since 1992, I'm not positive on the date. Legally, I cannot buy a single shot .22 rifle and give it to any of my grandchildren, or anyone else for that matter. My son can buy the rifle and when the child turns 18 years old he or she has to do the background check and 15 day waiting period to take ownership of the rifle. There are good people living and working in California, but we are outnumbered by the radicals. Too bad that some members of the forum do not realise this. At any rate, if you have had the gun for 20 years, I would do nothing about it, simply state that you have had it since before registration, a true statement. Eddie VFW & NRA life member 0 -
quote:Sir, it is a sad time that we live in when fellow Americans judge and condemn us based on our state of residence.
Sir;
Allow me to clarify the situation a bit.
Most of the condamnation comes about by the steady stream of California citizens that show up here demanding that the free states sell them weapons.insisting that we too bow to the Communist leaders you folks insist upon electing.
Most of those California citizens, when pressed, admit that they support NICS checks, or some other perversion of the Second.
INSTANTLY, it is obvious that that person is unworthy of calling themselves an American.
We actually have a member or two here on this forum that is FROM California, and valued members they are, indeed. Such a rare species, from that land of fruits and perverts.individuals versed in the Constitution, and insisting upon obedience to it.
In short, you do not get respect just because you are breathing.
You EARN respect from this group on this forum. The vast majority of the people in California have demonstrated that they are not worth a plugged nickel.
Sorry..but you folks did it to yourself.0 -
quote:Originally posted by elubsme
Sir, it is a sad time that we live in when fellow Americans judge and condemn us based on our state of residence.
It is not your state of residence we have a problem with, rather, your state of mind.0 -
I gotta agree. all The people in California ain't Worthless its just that the liberal majority of you are, You can Earn respect here as HighBall stated but I suggest moving, There are plenty of other states where you can give your grandson his 22 and thats it.....its his! California can break off at the Fault line drift out in the ocean and sink for all alot of people round here care[:)] 0 -
Thanks, Idaho! Actually, the big fault line, the San Andreas, runs along the coaast from San Francisco south towards L.A., so if that part of CA fell off, conservatives would probably outnumber liberals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sanandreas.jpg0
Please sign in to leave a comment.
Comments
47 comments