A Notice to the CA's.........
I wish to resign as a member.
Please remove my name, and advance the other folks up the line.
I will not go into extreme detail, as I laid it out basically in a post in GD.
I am tired of the worthless feuding, and the use of the word "elite" constantly, which evidently takes into account a persons net worth by some. How is a person with money not able to understand the Constitution, and want it to be the law of the land?
Seems that the definition is I should be living week to week to be a "regular" guy that is worthy. I really am not a follower in the first place, as I would not have gotten where I am right now with that mindset.
I will say that I am shocked at some of the hypocrisy about the NRA from some members here. Lifetimes that don't have the balls to tell them to quit sending them the free magazine, and other members that have just signed up because it was a "free" offer. Where does that place your true integrity?
I will never change my feelings about what I have discussed, and will still be on this board should I be needed.
I wish all of you the best going forward, and take care.
Mark
Edit: I have removed the reference from my sig line.
Please remove my name, and advance the other folks up the line.
I will not go into extreme detail, as I laid it out basically in a post in GD.
I am tired of the worthless feuding, and the use of the word "elite" constantly, which evidently takes into account a persons net worth by some. How is a person with money not able to understand the Constitution, and want it to be the law of the land?
Seems that the definition is I should be living week to week to be a "regular" guy that is worthy. I really am not a follower in the first place, as I would not have gotten where I am right now with that mindset.
I will say that I am shocked at some of the hypocrisy about the NRA from some members here. Lifetimes that don't have the balls to tell them to quit sending them the free magazine, and other members that have just signed up because it was a "free" offer. Where does that place your true integrity?
I will never change my feelings about what I have discussed, and will still be on this board should I be needed.
I wish all of you the best going forward, and take care.
Mark
Edit: I have removed the reference from my sig line.
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quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:If a quorum of Canary Asses feel that I am a 'hypocrite', I will step down.
Gentlemen ?I understood the Brethren to be a loose-knit association, based on belief in individualism and the Constitution, thus having, nor requiring "a leader".
Highball, you have the number "1" and are the first, but meaning no offense/disrespect, I have no "leader" here. I am an equal in an association of individual, like-minded Brethren.
I must agree...and your definition is EXACTLY what I believe we are. I'm not much on joining groups or clubs...but I am willing to affiliate myself with like minded individuals.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
quote:Originally posted by Highball
quote:I belive your response was uncalled for MT. Marc specifically stated he wasn't attacking YOU or Highball.
Freemind ;
Honesty is the best policy. I understand that you are merely repeating Marcs statement..the fact remains...we ARE the people he was talking about.
Sorry...the denial was after the fact.
Let me pick up again right here. I don't have much time before heading out again to another facility, but I will try.
HB,.....you are correct about being "the people" I was referring to.
I made NO "denial" however afterwards. I said I was not "attacking" either of you, but I WAS referring to you at the time.
Here is where my problem lies with the NRA issue.
Almost all of us go round with other members over the NRA issue, and their compromising of our 2nd. Amendment rights. It can get quite righteous at times needless to say, and I am certain that many, especially in GD, remember some of the heated arguments clearly.
It just hit me the wrong way to within a couple of days see one member proclaim proudly about his free NRA membership, and then yesterday to run across a thread of yours concerning something you read in your NRA rag.
How can we on the one hand call the NRA a "traitorous" organization that is bent upon helping the government water down our rights further, and then with the other hand read their propaganda, and open memberships with them regardless of whether they are paid for or not?
Do both of you understand my point? That is what it was,.......a point. It is ultimately up to any of you to decide what you wish to do in your personal life. I do stand by my point, and consider it legitimate.
Yes, I was also an NRA member. When I quit,......I quit. I don't wish to read their rag, nor do I wish to be contacted by them in any way again. Some of you may recall what I went through at my local members only range here. I was willing to walk away from the only convenient place for me to shoot, rather than cave in to their "requirement" of NRA membership. It cost me some "shooting buddies" needless to say, but that is fine with me, and an accepted result of the stand I took.
To MT357,....no need to eliminate your post because someone else insinuated that you should. I don't quite know what your intent was with your capitalized "EVER" and intended obsenity, but if it was a "hotheaded" threat to me, let me know. It gets tiring reading threats over the internet BTW.
The above is another example of why I question the viability of any organized movement if ever needed. Hell,.....we can't even get along as members with the supposed same beliefs.
I point out a legitimate issue, I get fired on, and then threatened I presume. It's not about having a disagreement, it's about hatred, and threats.
If it isn't that, it's the monetary issue. And no,....it isn't simply about powerful anti-American "elites." I have read numerous comments about people that make over a certain amount of money not being capable of being a "regular Joe" so to speak. Also HB says that only people with money have real freedom today,.....WTH does that mean? I am by no means what "I" would call a rich man, but I guess I am considerably more fortunate than many in this group, and on this board. How did that happen?
I also have read that anyone with money must have inherited it, or cheated on their taxes. The inheritance part I would simply have to laugh at,.....you would also if you knew where my family came from, and how they lived. I hate taxes, but I have NEVER cheated in any way in paying them. In fact I have probably overpaid by not taking advantage of things in the tax code that are legal.
Lets see,.......without going into my HS age jobs,......I have been a firefighter, worked in the HVAC trade for over 25 years,....17 of those being in my own business, and never in a trade union.
Sounds like a regular Joe to me, but once the 1 million figure is met or passed, you are a different "kind" of person to most. I feel it in other places besides what I often read on this board. It is a feeling that has taken hold throughout this country.
To finish up, I also consider myself a Capitalist, and that appears to be a dirty word here as well. I am also a Conservative, and that gets interpreted as a Republican which is also bad.
I vote in every election, although I no longer vote a party line, and will leave a space empty if it is a matter of lesser of evils.
Yes,.......I also still make those damn worthless phone calls, and send faxes to the morons. I am sure some of my words may have put me on a list per se, but I still believe in trying while we still can.
Many here don't agree with doing that, which is fine. I do get sick of reading constantly though about how what I do is a bad thing, and I am somehow feeding some "beast" out there by sending a nasty letter. I don't live in a bunker, or think about a SHTF scenario 24/7. I may not live to my normal age because of what might take place, but I sure as heck am still going to enjoy myself to the best of my ability in the meantime.
Well gotta go make some more of that filthy green stuff for a few hours. I wanted to point out that what has been building up in me has nothing to do with a person on GD such as Hobbyguy "getting to me," or the NRA issue in and of itself. It seems that many parts of my life, and a lot of things I do in that life, don't appear to go along with the beliefs of the vast majority here.
Carry on guys, and sorry for the novel.
I believe MT357 gave you one good reason for joining/reading the NRA's garbage...I can give you one more. It costs them $$$ to send out those magazines and all promotional material asking for special donations. If you have an opportunity to join them for free...you are taking $$ out of their pocket.
I'm not a member...and never will be again...but I can see a couple instances where it could damage them and further our cause.0 -
quote:Originally posted by freemind
Marc, you ought to know by now, I think your a good guy.
I am left to wonder though (perhaps I am taking what your saying the wrong way), if you aren't trying just a bit to rub people's noses, in your accumulate savings.
Personally, I know what your saying about the NRA issue. Let me ask though, what do you suggest people DO to acquire information about what the NRA is doing? Even though we don't support the NRA, that doesn't mean we should know WHAT they are doing, or plan to do. Something about keeping your eye on the ememy, you know.
BTW, you never did answer my question last night, about the NRA and Ohio CCW. Does one risk prison to protect the family and self, or does one allow themselves to be a victim?
James,....I was never referring to folks NOT reading about the NRA here. I don't quite know where that came from. I guess we are now spies into the NRA, and that is needed to expose them? Should I sign up again?
Also I would be the last person to rub anothers nose in anything financial. It seems to hit a nerve for some. You just need to realize that nerve can be hit in both directions. I have always wished everyone here the best. Let's forget about that, as you will never see what I am talking about. It involves much more than how much a person has in their bank account. Many here have much more than I do, and I don't begrudge it one minute.
That wasn't the point, but I guess what I tried to say just went sailing into the vacuum again. I don't claim to be terrific with words BTW.
To answer your question which I missed in haste,......I imagine if I had to make a choice between carrying a firearm legally, or taking my chances to spend prison time, that I would be a begrudging NRA member. Losing my shooting spot at the range is a lot less important.
I was not aware that was a requirement anywhere. If that is why MT357 obtained his free membership, then I owe him an apology.
Heck, I hate having to apply and jump through the hoops that I have to,.....I think you all know how I feel about that kind of stuff, 4473's/ NICS checks and such.
I am not going to continue to reply to nonsense on how I live my life, and whether I should drop out of society or not.
Yes,......I saw HB's comment right before I responded to you.
I have absolutely nothing against him, nor ANYONE here, but I will not continue to play the never ending game.
Most of what is truly important we ALL agree upon,.....the rest I am sick of.
According to his latest diatribe,....I have picked my company once again.
BTW Highball, I am not in the least bit "emotional."
In fact I have most times been called "cold, calculating, and unfeeling."
Actually in my eyes, YOU seem to be the emotional one. Whenever someone doesn't agree with you 100%, you play the "I will step down, or take away my #1 assignment if judged by the brethren."
I truly wish you all the best.
Mark
Edit: Please do not carry this on. I believe fully in what I thought I was getting into, and always will. I will still be on the forums, and have an e-mail link that is active. I WILL be here if the time comes that many speak of, and will continue to do what I do in talking to folks in person.0 -
Marc, thanks for the clarifacation.
I understand your anger. I would feel the same, if I were in your shoes.
Your still a good egg, Mark. [:)]
You ever make it up my way, for some odd reason, your welcome anytime.0 -
quote:Actually in my eyes, YOU seem to be the emotional one. Whenever someone doesn't agree with you 100%, you play the "I will step down, or take away my #1 assignment if judged by the brethren."
Wrong ;
You levied a series of charges against me. Those charges go directly to the character of a man.
If the Canary As. felt the same way ..I would be duty bound to step away from the group to avoid smearing them with the same tar I was smeared with.
YOU are the person bailing, here...mainly because I do not agree with YOU 100 percent.
Got news for you...I do not agree with ANY single CA on one subject or another...I merely express a mild opinion and let it ride. THAT IS WHAT FREE PEOPLE DO....
As for `who you stand with'...once again...I believe that Capitalism is big business and big government in bed together. If that is your bag, FINE ..but it ain't mine.
I will reserve my right to it out as utter corruption. I am sorry that offends you.
What the hell part of if you have a BILLION dollars, you got it thru hard work and skill, you didn't cheat anybody getting it...GOOD ON YOU...IS SO VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND ?
I call that Free Enterprise...and that is a marvelous system.
If you willing put yourself on the same level as these crooked investment bankers, derivative traders, and the assorted sleazebags that have broken the American financial system...so be it.
We have nothing in common.0 -
Have you two said your piece yet?
Take it over to GD, like the rest of the schoolyard crap.
Your both mad at each other. I get it.
Stop fighting, would ya?0 -
quote:Originally posted by freemind
Take it over to GD
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Before anyone starts whining about this thread being locked.
The "author" of the thread was Marc1301.
"HIS" request...........
quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
Please do not carry this on.
If he wants me to unlock it, I will.0
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