m-1 carbine
I know this is scant info, but can anyone give me an idea of what an M-1 carbine made in Saginaw in about 80% condition would be worth assuming all the numbers match? Were any of the reproductions made in Saginaw? Again sketchy info, but would like to know before I go to pains to track this down.....
Thanks,
Dan
Thanks,
Dan
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I know I'll most likely get varied opinions on this one, but possibly a consensus. Which is what I'm looking for. I purchased a newly manufactured Isreal Arms International M-1 carbine recently. I'm not knocking IAI, however, some of the fit and finish in my humble opion needs work. If I wanted to have the gun blued to a highly polished royal blue, a new "select" walnut stock and hand gaurd added with a beautiful laquer finish put on with special attention to fit, and have someone go over the entire reciever,bolt,etc, with painstaking care to make this a "best" you can get for reliablity, beauty, and funtionality. Who would in your opinion be "THE" authority on M-1 carbine's w/ a shop or if the individual himself can do it would I send it to, money not not being an issue. And lastly someone who is easy to work with. Any input is greatly appreciated. 0 -
This thing? THIS THING? You have something very desireable! The new Blue Book says $850 in the described condition, but I think some carbine fans would pay more. $1,200 may not be unrealistic. Neal Myers can help you on this one. 0 -
Are you sure its not a refinish job? If the wood and metal are that nice, it has to be refinished. There are quite a few unscrupulous people that have the dies and stamps to put authentic looking markings on firearms.
Chris8161
Admit nothing, deny everything, demand proof!0 -
If I were you I would have the firearm authenticated if possible, if it truly was unissued and is still in pristine, unused condition then you are looking at a pricy little piece there. 
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One of the big factors in determining the value of a carbine and determining whether it has been modified is the rear sight. What does your rear sight look like? Essentially there are two possibilities. The rear sight on your rifle is either: 1) a small piece of metal bent at a 90 degree angle with a whole in each end, one whole being slightly larger and higher than the other; or 2) a wedge shaped mechanical devise consisting of several pieces that allow for addjustment for both windage and elevation. The first one is sometimes referred to as the "flip sight" and is the original sight as designed for the rifle. The second one is generally considered to be addeded later, after WWII when the weapons were returned to the arsenal and refurbished. This second type of sight is generally considered to be less desirable and has been known to reduce the value of a weapon by half! However, there are some "authorities" who contend that the second type of sight was original to some weapons manufactured late during WWII. In fact, there is considerable debate regarding this point. However, the most widely held view is that the "flip sight" was the only sight issued on weapons during WWII and that is why these demand more money. One last point to keep in mind is that the "flip sight" is so desirable that they have been reproduced and some less than scrupulous individuals have taken off the mechanical wedge sight and replaced it with these reproductions in an attempt to raise the value of a weapon. Sometime it is difficult to tell, but generally you can tell if the amount of wear and coloration is different on the sight than on the rest of the carbine. Hope this helps. Steve 0 -
Bob, once you answer the questions the others have raised, we'll be a long way along in figuring out exactly what you have there.
I assume that you saw "Inland Div. GM/7-44" on the top of the barrel; what does it say (exactly) on the top of the receiver behind the rear sight? Also, describe the stock markings, including what is stamped in the sling cut (some cartouches are original, some might indicate a rebuild). Any markings on the sling?
Is there any chance you could take digital photos for us?
Neal0 -
I guess I will have to shoot some pics of this thing and send them to anyone interested in helping to figure it out. It will be next week before I get my camera back. I dropped the damn thing and it is at the camera doctor. Bob
bob levine0 -
"This thing? THIS THING?"
Careful there, Bob. Let's not give D-G a coronary! [:D]0 -
Hey Neal I tried to send to some pics and the e-mail was no good. it came back. The reciever is marked postal meter and the mag release has an "M" on it. There is a shield with "H" inside it on the right side of the rear sight.the serial # is 4224181. The front keeper has a diamont with a circle within a circle in it. The date of mfg in the barrel is 1-44
bob levine0 -
Not an Inland! Rest of you explain. 0 -
some how i'm beginng to beleive that theperson who traded "THE THING"
is a fool or he he fooled you .... just sounds to good to beleive
confused....but learning0 -
Bob emailed me some photos, & those, combined with the information he gave, enabled me to identify what he owns.
It is a NATIONAL POSTAL METER carbine that has been arsenal rebuilt. I was unable to identify a single part that was original. The Inland barrel, low wood stock, flip safety, M-stamped mag release, Rock-Ola rear sight, barrel band with bayonet lug, etc are all replacements.
While it appears to be a nice carbine, fresh from rebuild, it will not bring the high prices seen for all-original carbines.
Neal0 -
Gee, Bob, guess that's bad news. I'll give you $100 for that "thing" without seeing the photos. Know you won't want to keep something so bogus cluttering up your place. [;)] 0 -
Some guns are just not what one thinks they might be.. Welcome to the gun forum 0
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