Anybody use 4227?
I was looking for some H110 the other day for some 357 and 44mag. He was out, so, after looking through the manuals on hand, I settled for the 4227.
What's y'all's experience with it?
What's y'all's experience with it?
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only ever used it in the savage 10ML Muzzleloader. Sorry I can't help 0 -
It's marginal in the 357, okay in the 44. Works best in a gun with a longer Bbl. (6 inch and up) If you don't use a full load, it will be dirty. 0 -
I couldn't get my guns to completely burn all the powder, hence it was very dirty. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by XXCross
It's marginal in the 357, okay in the 44. Works best in a gun with a longer Bbl. (6 inch and up) If you don't use a full load, it will be dirty.
Thanks for the input. I got it for a 7-1/2" Super Blackhawk and a 6" Model 28 Smith...
Since it's stainless, dirty is not so much of a challenge for the Ruger. She cleans up nicely. I may just have to scour the countryside for what I'm really looking for.
I'm tellin' ya. I can't find H110 to save my life!0 -
quote:Originally posted by grizzclaw
I couldn't get my guns to completely burn all the powder, hence it was very dirty.
Do you think magnum primers will help?0 -
quote:Originally posted by Colonel Plink
quote:Originally posted by grizzclaw
I couldn't get my guns to completely burn all the powder, hence it was very dirty.
Do you think magnum primers will help?
Mag primers may help but in my experience 2400 is a lot better, I have not used 110 or 296 for years. I burned a pound of 4227 trying different loads, primers and bullets. I never got the MV expected even when using mag primers. I tested it in a 5" S&W 29 Classic and a 12" Encore Barrel.0 -
quote:Originally posted by bpost1958
quote:Originally posted by Colonel Plink
quote:Originally posted by grizzclaw
I couldn't get my guns to completely burn all the powder, hence it was very dirty.
Do you think magnum primers will help?
Mag primers may help but in my experience 2400 is a lot better, I have not used 110 or 296 for years. I burned a pound of 4227 trying different loads, primers and bullets. I never got the MV expected even when using mag primers. I tested it in a 5" S&W 29 Classic and a 12" Encore Barrel.
Well, burn a pound of it is what I'm gonna have to do. Since I've got a pound of it. That's all he had.
Damn, I'm beginning to develop a real dislike for hoarders.0 -
I've used it in reduced rifle loads with very good results, but only in 357 for pistol. Marginal but it will work. 0 -
You must use a fairly heavy roll crimp on your 44 as you would with say, 2400. This will help the burn rate be more consistent, hence it will burn hotter and cleaner. If you are using a bullet without a cannelure, like a rainier, for target work, taper crimp the mouth snugly.This powder works very well for me with 240 and 265 grain bullets. Have used it for years for hunting with a redhawk. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by B17-P51
You must use a fairly heavy roll crimp on your 44 as you would with say, 2400. This will help the burn rate be more consistent, hence it will burn hotter and cleaner. If you are using a bullet without a cannelure, like a rainier, for target work, taper crimp the mouth snugly.This powder works very well for me with 240 and 265 grain bullets. Have used it for years for hunting with a redhawk.
I'm going to see what it'll do with 300-grain JSP's in the Blackhawk.
My seating die is currently set up for a substantial roll crimp already, so I'm glad I won't have to piddle with that.0 -
The sweet load for two of my 44mag pistols uses 4227 ( 7.5" bbl ).
A solid crip on a canelure is mandatory for good performance with this stuff.
The heavier bullets work the best with this powder, at least for me.
Using some cast 255gr SWC (Keith) with gas check is a very accurate load for me, but not very clean. Probably a combination of the cast lube and not getting as stout of a crimp on the cast bullet.
You may also have some compressed loads, depending on your bullet choice.
ENJOY !0 -
Why not give Win. 296 a try . I use it in both the calibers you mentioned and it works well. I have a pet load for the Ruger .44 Mag., I'd be happy to share it with you , it is for Rugers and single shots only. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by oneoldsap
Why not give Win. 296 a try . I use it in both the calibers you mentioned and it works well. I have a pet load for the Ruger .44 Mag., I'd be happy to share it with you , it is for Rugers and single shots only.
If I can find some. I will.
Like I said, I invested pretty heavily in this one pound of powder.
I truly appreciate all the great advice this thread has produced.0 -
been l;oading IMR 4227 in my ruger super BH 44mag since the 70's .. In my Lyman 45th edition it is listed as the powder for accuracy loads with225 and240 gr jacketed and 205 and 250 cast bullets I like it better than 2400 less unburned powder need to put a good crimp the loads are max between 1300-about 1500 fps depending on wt mine have cronoed that 0 -
25 grains of it with 300 grain WC's bullets in my 454 Casull works for me.... 0
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