Barnes Bullits ???
Doe's anybody have any experience with .30 Cal TSX 168Gr.
I either read or heard that they need to be .100" off the lands to shoot well. That seems like a long way out to me, so I made up a dummy round. The dummys cycle just fine, But they intrude into the case below the bottom of neck. I dont like having the bullit in the boiler room. It's been my experience that you get primers backing up way before you get near max.load . Any thoughts on this, two heads are sometimes than one !!
For the fact you can read this, Thank a teacher!! For the fact that you are reading this in english, Thank a veteran !!!
I either read or heard that they need to be .100" off the lands to shoot well. That seems like a long way out to me, so I made up a dummy round. The dummys cycle just fine, But they intrude into the case below the bottom of neck. I dont like having the bullit in the boiler room. It's been my experience that you get primers backing up way before you get near max.load . Any thoughts on this, two heads are sometimes than one !!
For the fact you can read this, Thank a teacher!! For the fact that you are reading this in english, Thank a veteran !!!
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Use the Barnes loading data to stay out of trouble and forget the roomers and wives tales. Hear-say on forums will lead you astray as well. 0 -
They need to be at least .050 off according to Barnes, .100 is a lot and not needed...
Primers backing out are usually associated with weak loads, or a headspace issue..0 -
Barnes doesn't provide O.A.L. in their data 0 -
oneoldsap,
"I dont like having the bullit in the boiler room."
Choose another bullet. The Barnes bullets are mono-metallic and as such are longer for weight than the standard lead core jacketed bullets. When loaded to SAAMI OAL or off the lands as suggested by Barnes, they will protrude into the case further than other bullets. It's a fact.
Based on your last post, you obviously don't really need any help. So I won't waste any more of your time with information that Barnes publishes for this bullet. Besides, it doesn't take a Barnes bullet to shoot through a deer no matter what part of the continent you hunt.
Good luck.
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The only reason I'm messing with the Barnes is because my son took the bait. There is no way I'm going to pay a dollar a piece for bullets! That would defeat the main purpose of reloading in the first place .
The dummy round measured 2.665 at .100 from the lands. So I guess I'll load a handfull and see how they shoot. Don't know what that load data was for that you had there Nononsence . His gun is a custom Rem Mod. 7600 in 30-06 . We hunt thick cover in the northeast and Ontario , so tough bullets are a good idea. Some times those big bucks don't give you a real good shot, so a bullet that will shoot through them length ways is a good idea. I just use a .358 Win., nothing has walked away from it yet.
Thanks for the feedback gentlemen !!!0 -
If you go to the BarnesBullets.com site you can order (free) their latest DVD that explains bullet length and OAL very nicely. These are cutting edge tech designs created for the military....not your fathers old bullets, and lead free. This is a coming fact and law enforcement and military have already gone lead-free. They are the best combination of match accuracy and "drop dead killing performance" you can obtain and they are NOT $1 each. I only seat MY Barnes loads .005-.010 and they are all 1/2 MOA or better. Once you see the video you will be impressed. Why would you take advice from somebody with the word "nonsense" in their name ??? PS. My last box of Barnes Varmint Grenades were $43/250....that's 17 cents each !! 0 -
willyTC,
Well, now there's an auspicious way to start your membership here at Gunbroker.
I suppose the same question could be asked about someone with the name weasel.
weasel: a sneaky, untrustworthy, or insincere person
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A couple of points, if I may...
Barnes Varmint Grenades are NOT the same as their all-copper TSX bullets. Because they are very different from cup and core bullets, they produce different ballistics, including pressures; DO use only Barnes data with Barnes bullets. You also should follow their other recommendations, such as carefully cleaning the bore of jacket fouling before you shoot copper bullets, do not swap between Barnes and jacketed bullets without cleaning again, and seat Barnes bullets 0.050" off the lands.
All that is in their data section, their manuals and on their website the last time I checked. DO read and understand it.0 -
quote:Originally posted by willyTC
Why would you take advice from somebody with the word "nonsense" in their name ???
Incase you didn't notice, there is a "no" infront of the "nonsense". Read some of his post and you will clearly see his screen name says it all, he knows what he is talking about. Not to mention, more polite than I would be at times.0 -
Who said anything about varmint grenades ?? You need to go start your own thread there Rocky ! And take willyTC along with you. I do love to battle wits but I prefer that my opponents be armed !! Has anyone else noticed that everybody on the computer is 10 feet tall and bullet proof ?? Let's play nice. Any Vermonters out there ??? 0 -
Actually, Willy did. He brought up the bullets that Barnes created for the military, which are jacketed bullets with powdered metal cores, and then specifically mentioned Varmint Grenades (which are the civilian version of that military bullet) and used their price as a counter-argument to the "buck a bullet" claim.
My point is that they are different lines of bullets and their prices can't be compared that way. Besides, some Barnes bullets ARE about a buck apiece.
The loading information I included is from Barnes themselves, and I thought it pertinent to questions asked in the original post.0 -
Believe i paid 40 bucks for 50 barnes TSX bullets for my 300 winmag They also sell them for a 50 cal and they are like 4-5 bucks a piece if i remember right...[;)] 0
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