Bad Primers?
I am reloading for a Colt Official Police .38 and a
M28 S&W Highway Patrolman 357.
I bought a brick of magnum small pistol Win. primers and a brick
of Std. Remington small pistol primers for loading.
The Remington primers snapped on a cylinder full of 38s all 6 times in the Colt.
The Rems will go off if hit by the hammer a second time.
The Winchesters gave me no trouble until today.
In the 357, the Winchesters in .38 cases (1-2 times reloaded) go off fine, but not in the 357 (fired once) cases.
Both pistols have never failed with factory ammo. The Colt doesnt strike the primers all that hard but the S&W hits them HARD.
I bought these primers from seperate places and it just seems strange. I have reloaded for several years now and this is the first time this happened.
Interestingly the Rem primers also get used for my Colt SAA 32-20 which has an EXTREMELY light action job, but it has not failed with those primers for over 150 loads? It just doesnt make sense, especially since the S&W 357 hits the cases so hard and the Colt SAA has little hammer tension. Any suggestions would be appreciated Thanks.
M28 S&W Highway Patrolman 357.
I bought a brick of magnum small pistol Win. primers and a brick
of Std. Remington small pistol primers for loading.
The Remington primers snapped on a cylinder full of 38s all 6 times in the Colt.
The Rems will go off if hit by the hammer a second time.
The Winchesters gave me no trouble until today.
In the 357, the Winchesters in .38 cases (1-2 times reloaded) go off fine, but not in the 357 (fired once) cases.
Both pistols have never failed with factory ammo. The Colt doesnt strike the primers all that hard but the S&W hits them HARD.
I bought these primers from seperate places and it just seems strange. I have reloaded for several years now and this is the first time this happened.
Interestingly the Rem primers also get used for my Colt SAA 32-20 which has an EXTREMELY light action job, but it has not failed with those primers for over 150 loads? It just doesnt make sense, especially since the S&W 357 hits the cases so hard and the Colt SAA has little hammer tension. Any suggestions would be appreciated Thanks.
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About 1 in 100 rounds I reload doesn't go bang . I use CCI BR2 large rifle. Has anyone else had a problem with these or could it be something else. Thanks 0 -
What are you using to install/seat the new primer in the case when you reload . BE AWARE if you have oil or lube on your fingers and touch the anvil side of rhe primers it can sometimes KILL the primer. However it sound to Me that the primer is not fully seated if the first hit does not set it off but the second one does.When I first started loading I had case lube on rifle primers [xx(] and not fully seated pistol primers [xx(] I have loaded over 300,000 rounds in the last 35 years and NEVER had a MISFIRE. 0 -
Using a pacific single stage to load.
I keep my primers stored in the bedroom closet away from solvent
and try to keep hands clean. Every time, the second hit sets them off. I read another place that I probably wasnt seating them deep enough. Thanks0 -
I ran my primed cases back through my press and pressed the primers in deeper (NEVER DO THIS WITH LOADED AMMO- ONLY PRIMED CASES becuase it might go boom!!!)in the 357 cases, THEN loaded up 7 grains of Unique and a 158 LSWCHP and went down to my range and tried them.
Success! You were right, they all went off perfectly. Thanks again.0 -
You sound like you really know what you are doing and I commend you for seeking advice. I understand exactly what you did to remedy the problem and am in no way insinuating that you did anything wrong or unsafe.
However in the future please resist completely the urge to seat the primer more deeply in a case that already has been loaded, should that thought ever cross your mind.
I know that you did not do this but I posted this in the hope that someone does not misread your post and get confused as to what you did, and what is safe.0 -
quote:Originally posted by B17-P51
You sound like you really know what you are doing and I commend you for seeking advice. I understand exactly what you did to remedy the problem and am in no way insinuating that you did anything wrong or unsafe.
However in the future please resist completely the urge to seat the primer more deeply in a case that already has been loaded, should that thought ever cross your mind.
I know that you did not do this but I posted this in the hope that someone does not misread your post and get confused as to what you did, and what is safe.
Excellent point. I would never do this with loaded ammo nor advise anyone else do it. I changed my post above to clarify not to do that with loaded ammo just in case. A 357 right in somebody's face would be [V].
I have just started having this problem without changing the way I load (have loaded 45 LC, 44-40, 32-20) with 38/357- are the primer pockets deeper or something in 357?0 -
Dirty primer pockets can lead to misfires. The anvil is sitting on a cushion and that cushion of crud absorbs the impact of the hammer and no boom. Also prmer pockets that are not square accross the bottom allow only 1 or 2 of the anvil legs to sit supported. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by B17-P51
Dirty primer pockets can lead to misfires. The anvil is sitting on a cushion and that cushion of crud absorbs the impact of the hammer and no boom. Also prmer pockets that are not square accross the bottom allow only 1 or 2 of the anvil legs to sit supported.
I have never squared a primer pocket hell i don't even clean them most of the time and have never had one not go ka boom!!!
sounds like he wasn't seating them fully to me0
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