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45/70 Government Load

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  • nononsense
    redsimms257r,

    This is the section from Accurate Arms Powder website:

    45-70 Gov't

    I realize that this is probably a secondary interest but the Hand-Rifles are known to be very bad for recoil from any cartridge let alone something like the 45-70. They are not designed for recoil management. Rather than penalizing your wife with this rifle she will be far better served by buying or borrowing a good bolt action rifle that is fitted to her and chambered in a mild cartridge. There is nothing worse for a small framed shooter than a rifle/cartridge combination that punishes them every time they pull the trigger.

    I can imagine your response as being that this is what you can afford and that's why I suggested borrowing something if possible. That's hard too when it comes to someone with s shorter stature. I'm just trying to think of your wife's comfort.

    Best.
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  • redsimms257r
    Thanks for the input. My wife has a collection of rifles that she shoots. The handi in 45/70 was bought for her to hunt our primitive weapon season here in Mississippi. She wanted it and has not complained much but i thought i might try and ease it up a little. She did get to kill one with it last year so i know the possability of getting her to try something else is totally out of the picture now. I have tried some of the book loads and they are all designed around the "better" rifles and havent performed as well as the hornady rounds. But at 36.00 a box she either isnt getting much practice or going to find something else to shoot. Anyway thanks for the input.
    redsimms
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  • CapnMidnight
    Try using TrailBoss, 14-16.5 grs and your 300gr bullet, should realy help with the recoil, and still get the job done. Travels about 1,200 fps, got it out of IMR book.
    For what it's worth.
    W.D.
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  • redsimms257r
    thanks will look it over.
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  • Old Ironsights
    My "light plinker" is the Lyman 330gr 457122HP (also cauld the "Gould". It is a (the?) Traditional .45-70 bullet.

    I shoot it over 21gr (Lee 1.6cc dipper) Alliant 2400 to about 1300fps. (max 28gr)

    Nice thing about 2400 is that it spikes early just like BP so it obturates any undersized bullets nicely... Just be careful not to double charge.
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  • bgjohn
    Get her a .243, she will love you for it. I have a 12# 45-70 rifle that kicks harder than I like.
    JM
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  • redsimms257r
    she cant shoot the 243 in our primitive weapon season. she shoots a 7mm08 and a 257r in regular season the 45/70 is only for the primitive season in mississippi.
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  • 458winshooter
    My Hornady #5 manual states a starting load of 31.6 grs. of Reloader #7 for about 1300fps.This will get the job done at ranges of 125 yards or less and shouldn't be to bad on the shoulder.Consider also a shoulder protector ,that will help out to.
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  • brier-49
    I use 26.2 gr SR 4759/300 gr FNGC bullet in my Encore.
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  • bgjohn
    quote:Originally posted by redsimms257r
    she cant shoot the 243 in our primitive weapon season. she shoots a 7mm08 and a 257r in regular season the 45/70 is only for the primitive season in mississippi.


    You might try a 38/55 shooting 220gr bullets. Recoil is not bad at all.
    JM[8D]
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  • rg666
    Try 57 grains of H-335. It should be light enough for her to deal with.

    I would also get her a Past recoil pad so she doesn't get a sore shoulder even if the recoil is bad from the shortened stock.

    http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_35496____SearchResults
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