Please help.........
Ok I am new the forums but I have had many friends say to join them because the people are very helpful.
Ok I have a couple of questions if any one can answer that would be great.
2 years ago I bought a Savage .223 with an accutriger. It was a varmeter with a bull barrel and a 1 in 7" twist. I have been shooting this rifle with a bushnell scope 3x12 which has been ok I could keep my groups at about 1 1/2 groups at 100 yards which is not great but not bad either. I just did not have the power I wanted to have for this rifle with this scope. So I read several reviews on a rifle scope made by Barska. In fact it was the Barska 6x24x44 SWAT 30mm scope. The reviews I read gave it 4 out of 5 stars. So I took a chance and went and purchased it at Cabelas last week. Out of the box the scope was all I wanted and I fell in love with it. I put it on my rifle and took it to the range to zero it in. I was able to get my bullets at one point to a 3/4" group. I was prety excited. I then went and changed my target and came back and began to shoot my rifle and the scope was off by 6" I was confused because it was on just 5 minutes earlier. So I tried to re-zero the scope and had a hard time with it only able to get it to about a 2" group at 100 yards.
A few things went through my head. Could my scope be off by 6" because my barrell has cooled down? Could someone have messed with my turrets? Is the 55gr. federal bullets I bought to light of a grain to be shooting with a 1 in 7" twist and have spun so much it through them off? And if so which would be the best bullet for that twist. Is the Barska scope actually a crappy scope or do I just not know how to use it? Or is it the shooter?
Any way I am rambeling on.
So my questions would be what bullet would you recomend or should it not matter that I am using a 55gr bullet on a 1 in 7" twist. Has anyone used a Barska scope and have any advise on how to zero it in. Or could it be a mix of a bad bullet and a bad scope? Or that I just have not been able to match the bullet and scope to the rifle?
Any help on the matter would be greatly apriciated.
Ok I have a couple of questions if any one can answer that would be great.
2 years ago I bought a Savage .223 with an accutriger. It was a varmeter with a bull barrel and a 1 in 7" twist. I have been shooting this rifle with a bushnell scope 3x12 which has been ok I could keep my groups at about 1 1/2 groups at 100 yards which is not great but not bad either. I just did not have the power I wanted to have for this rifle with this scope. So I read several reviews on a rifle scope made by Barska. In fact it was the Barska 6x24x44 SWAT 30mm scope. The reviews I read gave it 4 out of 5 stars. So I took a chance and went and purchased it at Cabelas last week. Out of the box the scope was all I wanted and I fell in love with it. I put it on my rifle and took it to the range to zero it in. I was able to get my bullets at one point to a 3/4" group. I was prety excited. I then went and changed my target and came back and began to shoot my rifle and the scope was off by 6" I was confused because it was on just 5 minutes earlier. So I tried to re-zero the scope and had a hard time with it only able to get it to about a 2" group at 100 yards.
A few things went through my head. Could my scope be off by 6" because my barrell has cooled down? Could someone have messed with my turrets? Is the 55gr. federal bullets I bought to light of a grain to be shooting with a 1 in 7" twist and have spun so much it through them off? And if so which would be the best bullet for that twist. Is the Barska scope actually a crappy scope or do I just not know how to use it? Or is it the shooter?
Any way I am rambeling on.
So my questions would be what bullet would you recomend or should it not matter that I am using a 55gr bullet on a 1 in 7" twist. Has anyone used a Barska scope and have any advise on how to zero it in. Or could it be a mix of a bad bullet and a bad scope? Or that I just have not been able to match the bullet and scope to the rifle?
Any help on the matter would be greatly apriciated.
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jeppe,
IF you did everything the same as you always do(cleaned-didn't clean- shot the same # rounds befor you changed targets) have you checked the screws on your mounts? If answers to all of the above is yes, and you have ALWAYS shot the same load with 55gr bullets then you have a scope problem. I have two friends in our club the use Barska scopes and swear by them, I've shot thier rifles and thought they were alright, no problem.
I do honestly think you would get better groups in your Savage with heavier bullets, BUT that is not what your problem is now. I would send the scope back to Barska and get it repaired, or another one.
For what it's worth.
W.D.0 -
The Barska Scope you have will never allow for the accuracy your rifle is capable of. Sorry to tell you this, but it is a low quality scope all the way through.
If you get a Burris scope and put it into Burris signature rings you will be amazed by two things. (1) you will see your target much better (2) you will have a repeatable scope. I have a 30MM Black Diamond 4X14 on an 8 twist 6MMBR rifle some old fart made for me. It is a very good scope, I got it used. Take the Barska back to Cabela's and find a USED Burris on the auction side of this site. Even used the warranty is in full force. Nightforce scopes are even better but you are over a grand to get one.0 -
I am assuming that nothing happened to the gun while you were down changing targets, right? You state that someone could have changed your turrets, so you don't know if someone was handling your gun. Maybe they dropped it?
There could be two other issues that are not scope damage related. The first is that the bore of your rifle is dirty and needs to be cleaned. What type of ammo are you shooting. Some of the mil-surp stuff is notoriously dirty. Give it a really good cleaning and make sure you get all of the copper fouling out (use Sweets or something similar). The second thing is that your scope mounting screws have come loose. This one is probably the most likely senario.
When you started shooting, the screws were tight, then the action starts to heat up due to shooting, so the metal expands, gripping the screws tighter. No problem. When you went down to change targets the metal cools. The metal of the screws will cool differently than the metal of the action, thereby allowing some play. This can cause them to "work loose". Then you start shooting again with "loose" screws and the recoil loosens them more. Then as the action heats up, it grips the screws tight again and you can re-adjust.
To make a long explaination short, take the scope and mounts off. Remount using loc-tite and the proper torque on all the screws. Re-zero and enjoy.0 -
Barfska = Cheap Chicom junk[xx(]. Take it back and exchange it for a better scope. 0
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