30-30 load data for bolt guns

Iowaredneck

March 28, 2007 09:01

Where can I find loading data for the 30-30 with pointed bullets. I have a savage 340 that I love to shot but I want to try some 125-150 grain spitzers in it.

thanks


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  Tailgunner1954

  March 28, 2007 09:30

  IIRC Nosler (and maybe others) has data for the 30-30 in pistol barrels (IE TC Contender). Lacking that, start with same bullet weight data and work up from the starting loads.

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  Wulfmann

  March 28, 2007 14:17

  There is sometimes a desire to kick up a 30/30 load because it is in a stronger action but be advised it is still a weak case one of the very first smokeless cases designed so work up that load from a safe one and watch for signs.
  My .02
  
  Wulfmann

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  dtknowles

  March 28, 2007 17:50

  Wulfmann, why do you think the 30-30 case is weak? The ones I have sectioned seem to be as robust as any other modern case.
  
  Tim

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  Wulfmann

  March 28, 2007 18:14

  Speer reloading manual Page 256:
  
  "We are occasionally asked if the 30-30 can be loaded to higher velocities in a modern bolt action like the Remington 788.
  The answer is NO!
  The 30-30 case is an old design with relatively thin walls. Attempting to load "hotter" would risk dangerous case failure."
  
  I have never tried to find out how far one can push that envelope as this seems like pretty definitive advice.
  Mind you, I am known for searching new loads where others dare not go but this is one I have taken to be good advice.
  
  Wulfmann

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  dtknowles

  March 28, 2007 18:26

  Wulfmann, thanks for the reference
  
  Tim

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  11b6r

  March 28, 2007 19:49

  From the Speer manual- for 30-30.
  "Many who reload 30-30 have wondered why higher velocity loads cannot be used in modern strong bolt actions. The 30-30 case is relatively thin and not particularly strong. Higher pressures could lead to case head failure which can wreck even a very strong rifle." AND- "However, spitzer bullets over 150 grains are not reccomended. Pointed types are designed for velocities higher than the 30-30 can deliver. Thus they may not give acceptable expansion on game because of the stronger jacket." The above may explain the shortage of load data. Sorry-

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  Tailgunner1954

  March 29, 2007 01:29

  Depends on the spitzer. The Nosler BT in both 125 & 150gr have a velocity threshold for expansion that's on the lowside of 1700fps.

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