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  • B17-P51
    The crimp should be sufficient to hold the bullet under recoil. Single loading (Praire dog ) needs little or no crimp. If you must crimp, of course the factory crimp die works the best, as it is not dependent on case length as is a roll crimp. Yes on the neck size question. You seem to have that concept nailed. You may have to full length resize after 4-5 loadings, or whenever you trim. Full length size THEN trim. As for the bullets you mentioned, I shoot the Nosler 55gr #39560 BT. You can cover 200 yd groups with a Quarter, My freind that I hunt with has the next consecutively serial #'d model 700 in the same caliber and shoots 2.5"groups with my load, and 1 holers with Hornady V max at 100 yds. Go figure! Both good bullets but rifles are creatures of strange ways.
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  • JustC
    no crimp is really needed. I use anything from .001" nk tension on up with no ill effects.
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  • nononsense
    cubslover,

    You actually don't even need an additional crimp per se. Neck tension is generally enough for virtually all of the cartridges that I load for except when I magazine feed the real big shoulder pounding cartridges. Your .223 should be fine without the extra step, at least I've never crimped any yet.

    The controlling factor for neck sizing only is the size of the rifle chamber and the STRAIGHTNESS of the chamber. A slightly crooked chamber or throat can require full length resizing to get the case straight again after every firing. A slightly 'egg-shaped' chamber will require sizing also after firing unless you really want to go to the effort of indexing your cases.

    The 1:9" twist will stabilize bullets up to the 75 gr. Bergers and the 75 gr. Amax too. I use the AMAX for target shooting as well as longer range coyote and prairie dog shooting. The CT Silvertips are unnecessary if you shoot any of the other Nolsers. I would skip the Sierras and stick with the AMAX no matter what weight you choose to shoot. The 55 & 60 gr. VMAX Flat Base bullets usually perform great also.

    Check your e-mail.

    Best.
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  • Cubslover
    quote:Originally posted by nononsense
    cubslover,

    You actually don't even need an additional crimp per se. Neck tension is generally enough for virtually all of the cartridges that I load for except when I magazine feed the real big shoulder pounding cartridges. Your .223 should be fine without the extra step, at least I've never crimped any yet.

    The controlling factor for neck sizing only is the size of the rifle chamber and the STRAIGHTNESS of the chamber. A slightly crooked chamber or throat can require full length resizing to get the case straight again after every firing. A slightly 'egg-shaped' chamber will require sizing also after firing unless you really want to go to the effort of indexing your cases.

    The 1:9" twist will stabilize bullets up to the 75 gr. Bergers and the 75 gr. Amax too. I use the AMAX for target shooting as well as longer range coyote and prairie dog shooting. The CT Silvertips are unnecessary if you shoot any of the other Nolsers. I would skip the Sierras and stick with the AMAX no matter what weight you choose to shoot. The 55 & 60 gr. VMAX Flat Base bullets usually perform great also.

    Check your e-mail.

    Best.




    Thanks NN, another good round of advice!
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