44mag help
I loaded some rounds for a friend who hunts whitetail with his S&W Mod 29 8 3/8". The 10rds I loaded were 240gr SJHP's over 22gr H110.
He grouped 4 in 3" at 40yds, the rest were well outside. 4 of the others were below the target elevation line. Cases showed NO signs of stress.
Any ideas? I'm going to change some factors to see if it makes a difference. I'm thinking....bump it up to 23gr H110 with a heavier crimp.
I'm at work right now. I'll try to get a picture of the target up when I get home.
He grouped 4 in 3" at 40yds, the rest were well outside. 4 of the others were below the target elevation line. Cases showed NO signs of stress.
Any ideas? I'm going to change some factors to see if it makes a difference. I'm thinking....bump it up to 23gr H110 with a heavier crimp.
I'm at work right now. I'll try to get a picture of the target up when I get home.
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First off I would be trying the gun out for myself, or a third party, at least see if the ammo is at fault or maybe your friend is flinching under recoil?
Not trying to be a smartazz here. Just because your friend hunts with a .44 does not mean he is a good shot with it. One of my friends hunts with a .338 for whitetail. He missed 4 shots at bucks this past year. I think he is flinching, but I would not tell him that because he won't listen.0 -
You may want to try a harder crimp on these loads. I had a similar load that did not group well. I crimped them harder and now they are awesome! 0 -
23 gr of H110 is my standard load for 240 gr. I guess I have loaded and fired a couple of thousand. You can go to 24 gr, but I like the 23 gr load to help case life. 0 -
When you load with H-110, it is required that a heavy and consistant crimp is used. Accuracy will suffer, not to mention the inconsistant speeds the same load can deliver. Also are you using a CCI 350 primer? Highly recomended for H-110. My 44 last time I took it out gave me 5 shot groups that were touching, at 25yds. One hole group, out of a Dan Wesson with a 7in ported barrel. 23gr. of H110. Like stated previously, you have to figure if it is the load, the shooter or the gun? I have met people on the range that can't hit the target. So they think it is the guns fault. They have asked me to check and I shoot bullseyes with the same pistol. So you might want to check them yourself. Hope the info helps, Dan 0 -
Lots of advice.
Thanks alot guys!0 -
You can bump the load up to 26 grains of H110, but that is the maximum. I use this load in both my Super Redhawk and Deerfield Carbine. Good accuracy and penetration with no signs of high pressure. [:D][:D] 0 -
My bet is anticipation of recoil and relaxing the wrist.
Have someone else shoot the load that has pistol experience.
You do know that loading for another person is BAD?0 -
This is actually kind of ironic.
I shoot, regularly, with several friends. I shoot a 44 Magnum and a 357 Magnum. They are simply amazed at how accurate that I am with their 45 auto's, 40 auto's, and 9 mm auto's......
I keep telling them....try a couple cylinders of the 44 magnum...it takes ALL the jump out of you when shooting something else.
Try it....it works!0 -
<First off I would be trying the gun out for myself, or a third party, at least see if the ammo is at fault or maybe your friend is flinching under recoil?>
My first thought as well. If they all sound normal & some are hitting the dirt in front of the target a flinch is a likely culprit. Try this- you load the gun for him. Leave two empty cases in it. You'll find out if he's flinching, I guarantee it. That is exactly how I learned years ago. I still short load myself sometimes just to check.0 -
Crimp it good. At 22 gr., I wouldn't load it any hotter for a pistol. 24 is about the max for the 44 and that's for a rifle. I personally use 23.8, 240 gr JHP, and Federal Magnum Pistol primers for my rifle. I really like the H-110 for this round. 0
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