8.15x46R Rifle cartrige
Hi folks! I have a gun in this unusual caliber and 20 empty cases. I found a source for more cases but I need the proper bullets and loading data for these rounds. Any one out there have any help/advice? I would also be interested in the historical/current use of this round. Thanks!
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I don't have the load data in any of my books but.The 8.15x46R was, and I believe still is, a popular target and sporting cartridge in Germany. RWS most likely produces ammo
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ITS AN ODD BALL, CASES CAN BE MADE FROM 32 WINCHESTER ,HOPE THAT HELPS 0 -
I have some loading data for the 8.15X46R, only two smokeless loads but it's a starting point to work from. If you want to post your email address I'd be glad to send it,,,John.. 0 -
Hi guys! Thanks for all the info so far! My email address is: bigox@cloudnet.com 0 -
The cartridge has been around since the black powder days of the 1890's. The guns designed for it are not up to high pressures, so be conservative if you reload. Cases can be formed from 32-40 and it has about the same "OOMPH" as 32-40. It it at the bottom end of what I would consider as acceptable energy for deer, so shot placement will be critical.However, most of the guns designed for it were in fact target guns, so shot placement shouldn't be difficult.RWS may still make factory load for it. You may have to look around for it, but I bet you can still find some factory fodder. 0 -
In "The Handloader's Manual of Cartridge Conversions" by John J. Donnelly, page 897, it states; also known as 8.2x46.5R and 8.2 Patrone. Bullet diameter .316, but bores vary - slug for actual size.Make brass from: 30-30 Win. Anneal case and F/L size with expander removed. Trim to length, chamfer and F/L size again.Load data is Bullet weight 150 grs. lead. Powder 27.0 grs. IMR3031 gives 1675 fps velocity. per JJD.Hope this helps, have fun.BobWhen guns are outlawed, we all become outlaws 0 -
Oh, yes, the 8.15x46R, an old target cartridge popular in the very early 1900's in Germany and Austria for 200-meter off-hand target shooting. Ammo can be resized or fire-formed from 32-40 cases.151SP 30gr of IMR4895 @1900fps190Lead 23gr of IMR3031 @1500fps[This message has been edited by leeblackman (edited 10-29-2001).] 0 -
I have a German box of bullets for it. 49 to be exact. Years ago, I sliced one open as it appeared so strange. It is two piece, soft lead encased within the ojive and hard lead encased at the base. I thought it was some kind of B-Patrone. When I say two piece, I mean it actually is two seperate pieces of jacketed lead mated together. 0 -
Hi,p3skyking. I have never heard of 2 piece bullets before! Would you mind giving me your Email address? You may contact me at bigox@cloudnet.com 0 -
At one time two peice bullets were very popular both in the United States and in Europe for use in target rifles. Two moulds were used one for the base and the other for the nose. Depending on wether you were casting for a muzzle loader or a breech loader determined which end of the bullet was cast of hard lead and which would be cast of soft lead. In the muzzle loader,the nose was cast hard so that it would not be deformed by the rammer. On the other hand,bullets for a breach loader would have the base of hard lead and the nose of soft. One mould would cast a slug with a hole in it's base,the other mould cast a slug with a tapered post. The two halves were lightly lubricated and put together by hand. Then the bullet was placed into a two piece swage and smacked with a four or five pound lead headed hammer. An ejector rod was then used to tap the bullet out of the swage. It was then ready to use. Hope that this of some help to you. 0 -
At one time two peice bullets were very popular both in the United States and in Europe for use in target rifles. Two moulds were used one for the base and the other for the nose. Depending on wether you were casting for a muzzle loader or a breech loader determined which end of the bullet was cast of hard lead and which would be cast of soft lead. In the muzzle loader,the nose was cast hard so that it would not be deformed by the rammer. On the other hand,bullets for a breach loader would have the base of hard lead and the nose of soft. One mould would cast a slug with a hole in it's base,the other mould cast a slug with a tapered post. The two halves were lightly lubricated and put together by hand. Then the bullet was placed into a two piece swage and smacked with a four or five pound lead headed hammer. An ejector rod was then used to tap the bullet out of the swage. It was then ready to use. Hope that this of some help to you. 0 -
At one time two peice bullets were very popular both in the United States and in Europe for use in target rifles. Two moulds were used one for the base and the other for the nose. Depending on wether you were casting for a muzzle loader or a breech loader determined which end of the bullet was cast of hard lead and which would be cast of soft lead. In the muzzle loader,the nose was cast hard so that it would not be deformed by the rammer. On the other hand,bullets for a breach loader would have the base of hard lead and the nose of soft. One mould would cast a slug with a hole in it's base,the other mould cast a slug with a tapered post. The two halves were lightly lubricated and put together by hand. Then the bullet was placed into a two piece swage and smacked with a four or five pound lead headed hammer. An ejector rod was then used to tap the bullet out of the swage. It was then ready to use. Hope that this of some help to you. 0 -
At one time two peice bullets very popular both in the United States and in Europe for use in target rifles. Two moulds were used,one for the nose and the other for the base. Depending on wether you were casting for a muzzle loader or a breech loader determined which end of the bullet was cast of hard lead and which would be cast of soft lead. In the muzzle loader,the nose was cast hard so that it would not be deformed by the rammer. On the other hand,bullets for a breech loader would have a hard base and a soft nose. One mould would cast a slug with a hole in the base,while the other mould would cast a slug with a tapered post. The two parts were then put together by hand and lightly lubricated. The bullet was then placed into a two peice swage and smacked with a three or four pound lead headed hammer. Then an ejector rod was used to tap the bullet out of the swage and the bullet was ready for use. In breech loaders the bullets would be paper patched and in the muzzle loader a paper strip patch would be placed over the false muzzle and the bullet rammed home. Hope that all of this is of some help to you. 0 -
Sorry for the multiple posts. The server screwed up. 0 -
Very interesting! I had no idea! Thanks again to everyone who posted responces! I think I now have somewhere to start! 0 -
Look here for source of this rare ammo (Buffalo Arms, in Idaho):
http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/4,4103.html0 -
I hope to say that in the eight years since this got posted big ox either found what he was looking for or gave up.[:D] 0
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