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  • gravedigger
    I plan to buy an M1 Carbine in the next 3-6 months. I want to start looking around now, but I have no idea. What are the good ones? Which should I avoid. What price range is reasonable? What are the pros and cons of GI vs. commercial carbines? This will just be a plinker, also. All help appreciated, guys.

    -Marcus

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  • Laredo Lefty
    Digger.... Just about any military surplus carbine would suit your bill for plinking. I would stay away from Universal commercial carbines as they are pretty much junk.
    I have 5 carbines, 4 U.S. military, and 1 I.A.I. made in Isreal my most recent buy. The I.A.I. is an exact copy of the U.S. military guns, and it was $450.00 brand new.
    Collectors are interested in having all matching parts for their carbines, but for plinking you just need one that shoots. There are still surplus carbines out there, but they are going up in price. Plan to pay $400.00 and up for one in decent condition.
    U.S. carbines were made by Inland Div of General Motors, Underwood, Saginaw, I.B.M., Quality Hardware, National Postal Meter, Standard Products, Rockola (the juke box people), Winchester, and Irwin Pedersen. One of the pros of buying a surplus carbine is that there is still a good supply of parts available for them.
    All of the above mentioned wartime producers made their guns to mil-specs, so parts are easily interchangeable.
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  • Der Gebirgsjager
    There is no substitute for the authentic W.W.II vintage M1 Carbine--the real thing. Speaking about reliability, if it is genuine, it really doesn't matter who among about a dozen manufacturers actually made it--except to a collector, as some manufacturers made lesser quantities. For practical purposes, carbines assembled from all G.I. parts are as good as those assembled in one of the original manufacturer's factories, but are not collectable. The big plus about the original guns, or those assembled later entirely from original parts, is that a very high level of quality control was maintained through government inspection. After the war Plainfield Machine Corp. started assembling carbines from left over parts using receivers they manufactured, and these were pretty good rifles. Another company, Universal, did the same thing with some redesigning along the way, and this is a good one to avoid. Later the Iver Johnson Co. purchased the assets of both Plainfield and Universal and continued making carbines under the I.J. name. These are usually o.k., and still contain a high percentage of G.I. parts. They were followed by A.M.A.C. (American Military Armaments Corp.) who purchased I.J.'s assets and in my opinion their carbines were not quite as good as the I.J. product; but nevertheless better than Universal. Today carbines are being made (in Texas, I believe) by Israeli Military Industries. I have no experience with them, but they are reported to be good. The advantage here is that they are currently in production, and the manufacturer is around to back up his warranty. So, there are a lot of choices and once you start looking you'll be surprised at the variety you'll run across. But, I return to my original statement that there is none better than the original G.I. issue carbine, and although you'll probably pay more to get one, you'll also have one with a good resale value.
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  • nmyers
    Unfortunately, decent USGI carbines start in the $500-600 range. (I would avoid those with import markings, as many are worn out or the barrel may be smashed.) Since you just want a plinker, the IMI or a carbine built on a newly-made Springfield Inc receiver might meet your needs.

    Finding any carbine will be a challenge. You might want to browse the Culver Shooting Page Carbine Forum & For Sale ads (www.jouster.com), GB auctions, or check the Riverbank Armory website.

    Neal
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  • hunter223
    I have a Universal carbine and i love it. It is very accurate and is fun to plink or varmint hunt with. I only paid 250$ for it. It is in 90-95% condition.
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