CAPT. KIRK/M. CHRISTIAN...rem. mdl 10 trap grade??
1. remington model 10 slide action shotgun
2. 12 gauge, 28"BBL
3. the gun is marked "REMINGTON TRAP GRADE" on the left side
4. left side of BBL: "FULL * 206635 MODEL 10"
5. bottom of reciever: "U" over "206635"
6. right side of BBL: "REP" in an oval
7. trigger gaurd tang: "REMINGTON UMC" in a circle, over"TRADEMARK"
8. 48 1/2" OAL, wavy lines engraving along the top of the BBL
9. ivory bead front sight
10. bottom eject model
11. fine line checkered stock
i found a pile of remington model 10`s buried under various junk in the corner of the basement at the gunshop. about 8 complete guns, and parts of about 4 guns. i learned the came from the estate of a collector about 20 years ago. this particular model caught my eye, and i have never seen a trap grade rem. model 10 before. all my referance books list remington 10a`s in standard grade only. i cannot find out about trap grade rem 10`s. it seems the guns were listed in the inventory/purchase books as parts guns, even though the majority are numbers matching, intact and functional guns. i was told that at the time of purchase they were not considered valuable, and were to be used as parts doner guns, and forgoten about. a few were used as parts donors. this one was left intact.
what is it worth, when was it made, how many were made, is it of intrest to collecters, is it a good trap gun??? any info would be great.best regards, mike.
What other dungeon is so dark as ones own heart, what jailer so inexorable as ones own mind.
Edited by - mrmike08075 on 12/13/2002 21:48:32
2. 12 gauge, 28"BBL
3. the gun is marked "REMINGTON TRAP GRADE" on the left side
4. left side of BBL: "FULL * 206635 MODEL 10"
5. bottom of reciever: "U" over "206635"
6. right side of BBL: "REP" in an oval
7. trigger gaurd tang: "REMINGTON UMC" in a circle, over"TRADEMARK"
8. 48 1/2" OAL, wavy lines engraving along the top of the BBL
9. ivory bead front sight
10. bottom eject model
11. fine line checkered stock
i found a pile of remington model 10`s buried under various junk in the corner of the basement at the gunshop. about 8 complete guns, and parts of about 4 guns. i learned the came from the estate of a collector about 20 years ago. this particular model caught my eye, and i have never seen a trap grade rem. model 10 before. all my referance books list remington 10a`s in standard grade only. i cannot find out about trap grade rem 10`s. it seems the guns were listed in the inventory/purchase books as parts guns, even though the majority are numbers matching, intact and functional guns. i was told that at the time of purchase they were not considered valuable, and were to be used as parts doner guns, and forgoten about. a few were used as parts donors. this one was left intact.
what is it worth, when was it made, how many were made, is it of intrest to collecters, is it a good trap gun??? any info would be great.best regards, mike.
What other dungeon is so dark as ones own heart, what jailer so inexorable as ones own mind.
Edited by - mrmike08075 on 12/13/2002 21:48:32
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The Model 10 were made in 5 grades. I have a Model 10 Tournament grade. Mine has a T grade stamped on the barrel. I took mine to the Grand American, and had Remington check it out. They are the ones, that looked up the different models. Mine has the factory vent rib, which they said is rare.The other model,s were skeet,field,police,and a grade higher than mine which, if I remember right is the H or G grade.
The H or G grade, were inlaid with gold, and or, engraved. I have had mine for 25 years, and enjoy shooting it. If you can find a real Remington collector, he will be able to give you the years, and the serial numbers for certain models.
Your trap grade has a cross hatch, the same as the skeet grade. This would make 6 models instead of 5. I have seen trap grades with solid ribs also. I think it matter more on the year of production, than any thing. I hope this help you a little, and does't confuse you more. Best of luck K.J.S.0 -
BTT... any remington experts who can add to this discussion???thanx, mike.
What other dungeon is so dark as ones own heart, what jailer so inexorable as ones own mind.0 -
Mike, I can't add much more to what ked-mar said (welcome to GB ked-mar) except that I can find 7 model 10's listed and your Trap gun was known as the Model 10S. These models do not seem to command a huge premuim as one in excellent condition lists for under $300. Ked-mars model lists for about 3 times that amount so his must be pretty rare by comparison. I'm sure your gun would be a fine trap gun and shooter, but I doubt it has much collector interest, which explains why it was sitting in the basement of that gun shop. Ked-mar's model 10 on the other hand sounds as though it would be a highly desireable piece and of interest to Remington collectors.
Mark T. Christian0 -
Sounds like You Struck Paydirt...! Model 10 was made 1907 to 1929...
Slide action repeating Shotgun manufactured under Pedersen patents. Six Shot. Bottom ejection. Barrel 26, 28, amd 32 inches, Remington steel. [some with matted rib.] Gauge 12 made in A, B, C, D, E, F,R, and S grades.
Weights about 7 1/2 lbs. Markings: Serial numbers on bottom of Recievers just ahead of ejection Port. Checkered hard rubber butt plate with encircled "Remington UMC" trademark. Also "Trade Remington Mark" on action bar and "Remington UMC" trade mark on Tang of Trigger guard bow. Serial number on underside front of reciever. Barrels Marked: MODEL 10" The remington Arms Union Metallic Ctg. Co., Inc.-Remington Llion Works, Liion, new York, U.S.A. Patent February 3, 1903 and May 18,1905.
Also Model 10-C Target Version with ventilated rib and barrel machined out of solid stell and straight grip stock. Also Model 10-S {TRAP SPECIAL} with matted top surface barrel.
Also MODEL 10-S {TRAP SPECIAL} with straight grip. Walnut stock..Some with raised matted rib..
My BALDERSON Book of values says that the
Model 10A...in Excellent Condition is Worth $250.00
Model 10B....Unlisted.......
Model 10C...................................$300.00
Model 10D...................................$625.00
Model 10E...................................$825.00
Model 10F...................................$1100.00
Model 10R...................................$175.00
Model 10S...................................$250.00
Hope this helps You....Best.........
Captain Kirk, Tech Staff0 -
mrmikeo8o75
One more point,does your Model 10 have a real long fore-arm? Mine is almost twice the length of a field. If you get into Model 10,s you will find many things that are different. You have a shot gun with the fastest lock time, I know of. You have no hammer, but a spring loaded firing pin.I have Model 12's Brownings, Beretta's, and other Remingtons, but they don't compare in speed. If you shoot a lot, you can tell the difference in lock time.I have a lot of spare parts if I ever need them, but the old Model 10, keeps pluging along.
I hope your interest increases, in this great old gun.
Good luck K.J.S.
LOOK TWICE,SHOOT ONCE.0 -
I must have been posting the same time as captkirk3, and I didn't get to read his post.
What ever the book says, my Model 10 has a 30" full choke barrel, and is marked very plainly Model-10 T. This opens a new can of worms.I measured mine, with the breech closed,to the end of barrel, from the inside, with tape measure.The book must not complete,on all models.K.J.S0 -
My 1923 Remington catalog describes your gun. The 10T is the target grade model. It came standard with a 30 inch full choke vent rib barrel and a straight stock with recoil pad and a lengthend forearm. however, it could be ordered with pracically any barrel length, choke and stock configuration. It is a trap gun. It was also available in the higher grades as the 10TD, 10TE and 10TF. The model 10 was made in so many variations that it is hard to keep track of them all. Enjoy it. 0
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