9MM vs. 38 SPCL

maggiethecat

December 13, 2002 09:22

which has more "power" muzzle energy, velocity, etc... assume both are shot out of 2-3/4" barrel. one is glock 26, other is rossi m85

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  Nighthawk

  December 13, 2002 09:51

  The 9MM far exceeds the .38special Here are some Triton Ballistics to go by. .38Special 110 gr+P= Muzzle velocity 1125 FTPS with 309 FT PDS of Muzzle energy.The 9MM= 115 gr+P= 1325 FTPS Muzzle Velocity with 448 FTPDS Muzzle energy
  
  .38 Special+P= 309 FT Pounds of Muzzle Energy 110gr
  9MM+P= 448 FT Pounds Muzzle Energy 115gr
  
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  queeksdraw

  December 14, 2002 05:55

  Saxon you are getting 100 fps faster than my loads what powder are you using for 1405 fps? Thanks

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  cliffdropover1

  December 14, 2002 09:35

  In bowling pin shooting contests the 9mm is permitted with the pins usually set back further on the table than say 45acp. The 38 special is not permitted, as it will often bounce back off of the pin with obvious dangerous results. Thus, the 9mm is more powerful.
  
  Hope this helps.

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  Darrell

  December 15, 2002 16:11

  In bowling pin shooting contests the 9mm is permitted with the pins usually set back further on the table than say 45acp. The 38 special is not permitted, as it will often bounce back off of the pin with obvious dangerous results. Thus, the 9mm is more powerful.
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  Bowling pins decide this issue? Interesting. Wouldn't have anything to do with the bullet type/shape/design powder charge would it? Naw....

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  ebeshirs

  December 15, 2002 18:38

  Cliff, I've had several different calibers bounce off a bowling pin including the .45, .38 spec., .44 spec., 9mm. among others. It is some tuff material to get into. By the same token, I've had penetration with each of these loads also.
  I think Darrell is on the money. There's alot more to bowling pins than meets the eye.
  As to the original question, in factory loads, the 9mm is more "powerful" than the .38.
  Reloading your own is a different story. Revolvers, just by the design alone, are able to be stoked hotter than automatics.
  
  "How hard can it be? It can't be rocket science."
  
  Edited by - ebeshirs on 12/15/2002 23:39:16

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  cliffdropover1

  December 16, 2002 14:07

  Yes anything can bounce back. And no, the pins do not decide the issue. That said, the 38 special, for any number of reasons, tends to bounce back more often than not and thus is not allowed in bowling pin contests. Going by personal experience on pins, the 9mm has more power than the 38 specials. Most use the .45 and up on pins however.
  Just trying to cite an example where the 9mm has shown itself to be more powerful than the 38 special.
  
  
  Edited by - cliffdropover1 on 12/16/2002 19:27:15

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