Advice on cleaning: breech or muzzle?
Which do you think will do less damage to a bolt action gun? Using a 1 piece steel rod from the breech with no bore guide or from the muzzle with a bore guide?
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"...hit your enemy in the belly, and kick him when he is down, and boil his prisoners in oil- if you take any- and torture his women and children. Then people will keep clear of you..." -Admiral of the Fleet Lord Fisher, speaking at the Hague Peace Conf
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jonk, I'd go with the first option. I guess that's a natural response from an old-timer, but the intent is to minimize any possible muzzle wear. I've never used a bore guide so really am in no position to evaluate them. Let's see what the other guys say!!
OleDuk0 -
Muzzle w/ guide has the potential to do less crown damage than going in from the breech, if you're in the habit of pulling your brush, patch, etc. back thru the muzzle, if you now go in breech first.
For M-1's (& similar designs) the only way in is muzzle first. Guides are always your best choice here & some folks recommend not pulling the tools (patch/brush/mop) back thru the bore but unscrewing them from the rod before extracting same for another pass.
Ideally you want to prevent any contact at the crown edge from anything other than a bullet doing it's intended thing.0 -
Just because you are using a semi-auto rifle doesn't mean you have to clean from the muzzle. I have a Remington 597. It's a nice little .22 and I've never cleaned it from the muzzle. I use a bore snake and go in from the breech. 0 -
Clean from the breech using a bore guide. They are relatively inexpensive and fit a variety of calibers. The guide also keeps the rod centered in the bore and helps to reduce nicking on the crown if you pull the jag back from muzzle to breech.
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if you ask any long range or precision shooter or maker of said rifles you will be told " always push the brush or patch the same way the bullet travels" unscrew the brush or jad at the muzzle, the pull rod back thru. you should also be using either a coated with soft rubber one piece rod or a wooden one. the idea here is to protect the crown, or more accurately, the rifleing at the muzzle. that said, most guns do fine from either end.
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The kitty cat said it just right. 0 -
Currently I generally clean from the breech with no guide. I was asking because on some guns the ejector really gets in the way of the rod. I would get a guide but virtually every time I see one it is for smaller calibers. I want one mainly for .30 cal +/- rifles. Any good suggestions?
I use a one piece coated rod on my smaller calibers made by Tetra Gun. The stainless rod works great though, and doesnt' collect gunk. One of these days I'll replace it though with a coated rod.
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Jonk, take a look at the Stoneypoint guides, www.stoneypoint.com I think. I have used a pair for several years with no problems, except they are a pain to remove from Ruger bolt actions, as they too tend to hang on the ejector. I depress it carefully with a pocketknife when done. 0
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