My Two Colts
Hi, some questions. Ron passed in March and (too early)I gave over guns:shotguns,trapguns,handguns,rifles to a arms dealer to sell for me. Though I didn't get back the Colt 357 Python (6" & could really hurt myself for that)which was my favorite pistol, I did get back his National Guard Essex Framed 1911A1 Semi-Auto 45 ACP,Colt Slide. I've 230 gr.ball rounds and a tan box of .45 rounds, says Ball M1911; lot wcc-2-100 by Olin Corporation. My personal protection is a Colt Lawman III 357 Magnum OTG(?) Only .38 can also go in this gun, correct? And could you tell me what year that might be? What year do you think the 1911A1 auto is? Ron was in the Guard from late 1960's to 1975'ish. Also have a Lady S&W 9 mm,still has original box, instrs, et al, never had a round through since new in 1994 (Xmas). Could something like this be traded for a Colt Python 6" Blued, reg grip?; or maybe a Makarov 9mm 10 round? Any lefter-handers out there interested in an MEnfield 1917 (sport-customized) 30-03? Left handed, right hand bolt lever with Leupold 4X scope, stock is beautiful walnut. Appreciate your time and expertise. I will forever by on the hunt for my 357 Python. Maggie
...Maggie Brooks
Edited by - Porsche on 12/08/2002 01:52:19
...Maggie Brooks
Edited by - Porsche on 12/08/2002 01:52:19
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Sorry to hear about Ron.
The Colt Lawman Mark III was made 1968-1983. With the serial # we might be able to date yours better, but the year is probably not important to anyone. The abbreviation is "ctg", which is short for "cartridge". This gun was designed to shoot .357 mag cartridges, but will also fire any .38 special cartridge.
Maybe someone else can help with the Essex.
Trading guns is difficult when dealing with someone in person; swapping over the Internet is even more so. I recommend selling whatever you don't want, and then buying what you want in a separate transaction. The sponsor of this site, Gunbroker, offers an excellent place to buy or sell guns to a nationwide audience at a reasonable price. When selling a gun, you need to provide a complete description and high quality digital photos. The Ladysmith should be easy to sell, but the Enfield and Essex will be difficult.
As I am sure that you already figured out, Pythons are very desireable, and any fool can sell one. Hopefully your dealer at least gave you a rough idea of what you should expect to get for the other guns you left with him.
In any case, be sure that you read the rules and laws posted on the Gunbroker auction site, so that you will not make any legal errors in the sale or delivery of your guns. Get back to us if you have specific questions about the process.
Neal0 -
Your Essex framed M1911A1 would date from the time he was in the Guard.
Essex started making frames in the late sixties. You can probably date it more exactly by contacting them, giving them the serial #, and asking when the frame was made.
Web Site: http://www.essexarm.com/ Email: manager@essexarm.com Phone: 802-472-32150 -
To Nmyers, SaxonPig and Xracer: I thank you gentlemen for your responses. Re the M1917 Enfield: it is a 30-06 (typo). All the gun dealers at the gun show at the Hilton in Reno loved it; but inasmuchas it was "sporterized" (I really came to hate that statement)they said no thanks. Okay, I've some collector coming to look at it Friday. I apologize for not stating the serial #s. On the 1911A1 45, there's a number on right side just under slide:20431 and on the left:#7790314; and the Lady Smith model #3913 with a number just under it of VJA2504; my Lawman's number (which was pretty sneeky to find) is:J59918.
You've got it, Neal: "any fool" regarding the Python. It was way too early for me to be doing any type of selling, getting rid of, etc of Ron's things. Had I been grounded, I would still have it. And, yes, Mr. Depew (highly reccommended) gave me a typed list of all weapons and their value and/or price they were sold at. I am keeping the 45ACP and my Lawman. And will soon be bartering with the LadySmith. I've always preferred revolvers; and figured since I'm keeping the 1911A1, I'll be going the indoor range for some training, shooting et al. As well as some rifle, shotgun training. I intend to get another Brittany, train him/her and take Uncle Bob out pheasant hunting; that is if he's not too old by the time I get retrained. Time goes by too fast at this age for me. Guys, again, thanks and I'll definitely be coming back to this forum. Bye, for now, Maggie.
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Maggie, I apologize for my misstatement.
I did not mean to imply that you were a fool for selling the Python; I meant that the dealer to whom you gave the guns on consignment didn't need any skill to sell a Python. ANYBODY can sell a Python; it's the others that require skill/hard work to sell.
And, a word of caution to everyone about consignment sales: If the dealer goes broke while in possession of your guns, you will probably lose them. (He's logged them into his bound book, so they are legally part of his inventory.) His property goes to pay off creditors, and you will be last on the list.
Neal0 -
Hey, Neal: it's ok; I really didn't take your statement as such. I do feel like a fool nonetheless. It was too early for any decisions. Thanks for the apology, but I will probably never get what I'm looking for, unless GW is a prospective source. You're right, I am putting an ad in the Carson City paper. I would be damn lucky if... plus, how do you beg someone for their husband's gun back; that you made a mindless blunder... You're a sweetheart, thanks. Maggie. I hope GW is able to send me a picture through the email. Take care.
...Maggie Brooks0
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