Shotgun for turkey shoots
There are a lot of turkey shoots around where I live at this time of year. I like to go to a few of them.
But I have noticed there are a few people that seem to always win. I have also noticed that these people will not put there guns in the rack for other people to shoot. Thay clutch them with a death grip.
My old 12ga workes pretty good for skeet but hardle puts any pellets on the target. I am wanting to get a gun for turkey shoots. What kind of choke or gun should I get. I want to get one that will will win. But I will put it in the rack so anyone can use it.
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When I was a child, I thought as a child. But now that I am grown, I just wish I could act like a child and get away with it.
But I have noticed there are a few people that seem to always win. I have also noticed that these people will not put there guns in the rack for other people to shoot. Thay clutch them with a death grip.
My old 12ga workes pretty good for skeet but hardle puts any pellets on the target. I am wanting to get a gun for turkey shoots. What kind of choke or gun should I get. I want to get one that will will win. But I will put it in the rack so anyone can use it.
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When I was a child, I thought as a child. But now that I am grown, I just wish I could act like a child and get away with it.
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You can get a double barrel 12gauge 3?" shotgun, or a Mossberg 835 pumpgun seems to do the trick too.
There are double barrel guns with tight bores/chokes, you might prefer a 3" or 3?" if it's pellets in the target you win by.
The 3?" Mossberg 835 pumpgun is also great.
There is also a Benelli Nova pumpgun and Super Black Eagle semi auto in 12 gauge - 3?".
(those are just the only models I can remember with the 3?" chamber!!)
Happy hunting / turkey shootin'
Regards
Peter E Jeppesen
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tools, the reason same people win is their guns are modified specially for turkey/card shoots, kinda like using a corked bat..legal as long as your not caught.. John 0 -
A few months ago i recall seeing an article in one of my Gun World magazines that was titled Browning's 80 yard Shotgun or something to that affect. I remember it was designed for turkeys out to the maximum range and shot super tight patterns. I cant find the article right now but if i do ill post the name of the gun. You could check it out at their website at www.browning.com 0 -
Happy Nanoq
The few turkey shoots I've attented, the club provided the ammo. Usually 2 3/4" factory skeet loads, which eliminates any advantage that might be gained by using the 3 or 3 1/2" guns (it also eliminates someone from using 1 1/2oz 2 3/4" hand loads).
Having the forcing cone lenghtened and running a extra full choke will get you the most gain in patterns, but the real secret is knowing where your gun shoots to (use the patterning board). It's not unusual to find that the densest part of the pattern is 3-4" away from the aiming point.
Some guys like a mag full of lead, I still prefer one round to the head.0 -
Tailgunner has it right in knowing where your guns greatest number, or density of pellets will go. Choke is a major factor in keeping the shot collum together. Take a standard news paper sheet and place it 40 yards away spray paint a spot dead center, shoot, go look at the pattern, where do most of the pellets go? Most of the guys that seem to be consistant winners around here use old Mod.97's these have 30 inch bbl's another factor in keeping the shoot collum together for a longer distance. These may or may not have extra full chokes the fellows keep a good grip on there guns between call ups, also the reason we use a gun rack between call ups is safty reasons not so your gun is available to be used by anybody, if this the policy at your club I belive it is due to good sportsmanship, rather than common practice. 0 -
It's all in the choke. Some clubs let you use your own shells. Then the ingredients or recipe of the shell is a factor also. 0 -
Sorry about my post then =o)
I read turkeyshoots like a way of hunting. hehe.
Then I believe a regular O/U with extended chokes might be a good thing, if they're allowed that is.
You can get incredibly tight chokes, where they extend out from the barrel.
I do believe too, that was it Beretta or such, that there was once made a double barrel gun with extra long chokes.
It started further inside the barrel.
The Winchester 1500XTR European I had, could crush claytargets at 50-60metres - I mean TOTALLY crush, just a cloud of dust like a perfect hit at short distance.
That was due to 28grams of steelshot (2mm - Trap shot size pellets) with an Extra-Full choke.
People took another look when the claytargets dissapeared in a cloud like that - again and again.
Maybe that's what you'd need. =o)
Regards
Peter E Jeppesen
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Knowing where your gun shoots the pattern is some of the key. Luck is the other. Most of the guys down here in the south shoot Hastings barrels with a .640 screw in choke. Some turkey shoots up north use a go-no go gauge to make sure your gun is legal. Not here, anything goes. You wouldn't believe what a load of 9's on a paper plate looks like at 35yds. Granted a 12 gauge is around .720 open ..minus that for choke, Most 12 gauge full's are around .685-.690.... .640 is getting the job done. 0 -
The Mossberg Model 835 Ulti Mag would make a good gun for the ocassion + many others.
Best!!!
Rugster
Toujours Pret0 -
As for what kind of gun, back in the 70's a friend had a Marlin Original Goose Gun, 12 gauge 3" magnum, full choke only with a 36" barrel, bolt action with a two shot clip. We used this thing all the time at turkey shoots and it EASILY paid for itself and won quite a bit. With a 3 foot barrel, it shot extremely tight patterns. It had an overall length of 57" and the looks that we would get just carrying this thing in were worth the price. I believe it has been discontinued from production but there are dealers that are advertising them as available NIB. By the way, the shoots we attended supplied the ammo, 2 3/4" AA shells. 0 -
i use a mossberg 500, 20 inch bbl, w/cyl.bore, and i did beat the ohter guys few times, who needs a stinkin` choke and a bbl taller than i am?? yes they do better but all it takes is one of those bb`s to hit right, doesnt matter if you have 1 or 100 on the paper, i do plan on getting a another shotgun for next year, something i can change the chokes in.
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The barrel length has nothing to do with how tight the pattern is. Long barrels on shotguns are a throw back to BP firearms that needed longer garrels to give th BP time to build up gases. Up here, turkey shoots can take more than one form, some of which don't involve shotguns at all. Mind you, with a shotgun, I'd want a 'turkey choke'. It's kind of an extra full. 0 -
I have a feeling this topic is about to be locked, so if I can sneak 1 more post in. With all due respect to Sunray, many modern guns still come with long bbl's and this is quite some time after the advent of modern powders, and useing his reasoning you could get the same results from a 12 inch bbl as you could from a 30 inch bbl given they both have the same constriction, I personaly dont have much confidence in this thieory but to each his own. I will say that if it can be diminstrated to be true that I will start reducing some weight from a few shotguns. 0
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