7mm mag vs 300 win mag
In my search for the perfect .300 Win. Mag (in my price range, good accuracy to 3 or 4 hundred yards bolt or Falling block action) I was reading about the Browning 1885 High Walls, only they were not offered in .300 win mag. 7mm Remington mag however is an option. I prefer to stay with the accurate and common calibers like .243/6mm,.308,.300 win mag but maybe I should consider the 7mm mag. Keep in mind i'm interested in using the rifle for Rocky Mountain Elk and hopefully Alaskan big game including Moose. How does the 7mm mag do for downrange stopping power on big game, and what about accuracy? (all comparing with the 300 win mag)
(Right now I'm only looking at factory rifles) I will appreciate any input.
(Right now I'm only looking at factory rifles) I will appreciate any input.
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When you say Alaska my mind jumps to .338 Win Mag, Ruger 77 stainless/syn. about $400. put a muzzle brake/tuner on for $150. add a nice Leopold or Burris for $350. get some 225 gr. rounds and call the taxidermist. The only way to get good accuracy with any of the light weight mags. is with the Boss type system. 0 -
might take a look at the 300wsm is equal or better than the 300win mag
i have not shot a 300 wsm but sounds like it has a little more than the old 300wm.. might open up more rifles to choose from
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GPWEAPON, Is 3/10s inch groups at 150 yards acceptable to you with a lightweight match barrel without a Boss? They seem to pretty much be acceptable here!! 300 WinMag and 180 grain Sierras, Model 70 action and Shilen match grade sporter weight barrel. So much for needing the heavy barrel and brake/boss! GHD 0 -
My mistake ghd let me clarify ,low cost FACTORY light weight barrels should have asked James his price range also. 0 -
GPWEAPON, I would also have to agree with cowdoc and maybe look into the WSM's or the RemSAUM's. I have shot 3 of the WSM factory guns and was impressed by their accuracy and the "lighter" recoil. They were pleasant to shoot. I'll bet they come with a 338 version sometime! GHD 0 -
Well for my 0.02 worth, I would have to agree with GPWeapon as far as Alaska hunting. Stick with synthetic and SS and I personally wouldn't even think about hunting that country with anything under a 338, preferably a little ol 340 Weatherby Mag. There's critters up there that like to eat people and I would be well heeled before I ever hopped off the airplane.
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When you say "I'm interested in using the rifle for Rocky Mountain Elk and hopefully Alaskan big game including Moose," that tilts the decision towards the 300 mag. And though I personally have a couple of single shot rifles, of which I am well pleased, I would go with a bolt action for any "serious hunting rifle."
My idea of the perfect rifle for elk and moose would be a bolt action in 300 Win mag, synthetic stock, good leather sling, 2-1/2 or 3 power Leupold scope with Leupold or Burris one-piece mount and rings.
My humble opinion,
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In my search for the perfect .300 Win. Mag (in my price range, good accuracy to 3 or 4 hundred yards bolt or Falling block action) I was reading about the Browning 1885 High Walls, only they were not offered in .300 win mag. 7mm Remington mag however is an option. I prefer to stay with the accurate and common calibers like .243/6mm,.308,.300 win mag but maybe I should consider the 7mm mag. Keep in mind i'm interested in using the rifle for Rocky Mountain Elk and hopefully Alaskan big game including Moose. How does the 7mm mag do for downrange stopping power on big game, and what about accuracy? (all comparing with the 300 win mag)
(Right now I'm only looking at factory rifles) I will appreciate any input.
Sako & Savage make factory rifles for Lazzeroni ammo. The ammo is very expensive but if you are going to pay the money to hunt big game what does a $5 bucks a bullet matter. I have a Sako Warbird (308) with a custom load from Lost River that shoots a 165 grain J36 bullet 3,580 fps and a 6/10" group. It drops 6" at 400 yards but still is faster and has more energy than a 30-06 out of the muzzle. Go to www.lazzeroni.com for info. Prices are $800 for the Sako and $500 for the Savage.
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Not a Moose or Grizzly bear that would feel a bit under gunned with the 7mm Mag with the right bullet in the right place.
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Well, it appears Aglore beat me to it. The difference is minimal at best, until you get into the heavier of the bullet weights. My partner uses a 300wm and I use the 7mm mag on crop damage hunts, and there is not a single instance where the 300wm appeared to outdo the 7mm mag. loaded with a 160 or 165gr bullet, especially from Lost River, the 7mm mag will knock anything over you need to shoot at. other than that, it's just a matter of choice. As Aglore stated, Bullet placement is the key to success, not a bigger bullet.
Take a look at the Remington Sendero in 300 Ultra Mag. With the fluted barel, I was impressed by how little felt recoil there was, for such a powerful round. That's just a suggestion if you have to have a "big nasty".
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I own a Browning 7mm mag it is extremely accurate and their is not an animal that walks that it wont drop. One of my friends went to Africa last year on a safari and the PWH, (profesional white hunter),carried a 7mm mag that a previous hunter gave him as a tip. He said he had taken cape, lion, kudu, and just about everything except rhino and elephant and that was more due to hunting bans on them. I find it amazing that people still argue about the performance of modern rifle calibers. How on earth did people ever manage to kill large game with muzzle loaders with a fraction of the power.
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Don't get me wrong by my previous reply. I am a HUGE fan of the type of velocity and range and accuracy you can achieve with the Remington 7mm mag and 300 Win mag. I own a Rem 700 in 7mm mag and love it. And I would never feel undergunned takeing my 270 Weatherby mag Elk or Moose hunting. All I'm saying is I would take a 250 grn bullet over a 165 grn bullet any day any time if I'm after dangerous game. And we need to remember. Back in the ol days, those guys weren't fireing .284 caliber lead balls out of those muzzel loaders.
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