a little help on S&W values please
Need some help and advice please,
A friend is interesting in trading a few guns with me. I would rather purchase his handguns than trade my gun(s) that he wants. Can some one give me a ball park value estimate on the following S&W .357 revolvers?
1. Stainless, model 19-4, SN# 70k9x1X, it has adjustable rear blued sights. Has the original wood grips (I think) with the S&W logo and a 6" barrel. Smith & Wesson on one side of the barrel and S.&W. .357 MAGNUM on the other side of the barrel. Looks like a pin, just in front of the cylinder going through, but just above the barrel. I would say the condition of the gun is very good and it is clean.
2. Stainless, model 19-4, SN#119k8xx it has adjustable rear blued sights also. The front sight has a red insert of some sort. It has soft black plastic grips that appear to be after market and a 4" barrel. Smith & Wesson on one side of the barrel and S.&W. .357 MAGNUM on the other side of the barrel. It also is in very good condition. No pin above the cylinder on this one. Port side on both guns have the S&W trademark near the grip area and the starboard side is marked "Made in U. S.A. MARKAS REGISTRADAS, SMITH & WESSON SPRINGFIELD, MASS.
Both of the revolvers have smooth trigger pulls. What would be a fair price range for these handguns? Date of manufacture? Thanks to all.
Worry is the interest humans pay on the debt of miscalculation.
A friend is interesting in trading a few guns with me. I would rather purchase his handguns than trade my gun(s) that he wants. Can some one give me a ball park value estimate on the following S&W .357 revolvers?
1. Stainless, model 19-4, SN# 70k9x1X, it has adjustable rear blued sights. Has the original wood grips (I think) with the S&W logo and a 6" barrel. Smith & Wesson on one side of the barrel and S.&W. .357 MAGNUM on the other side of the barrel. Looks like a pin, just in front of the cylinder going through, but just above the barrel. I would say the condition of the gun is very good and it is clean.
2. Stainless, model 19-4, SN#119k8xx it has adjustable rear blued sights also. The front sight has a red insert of some sort. It has soft black plastic grips that appear to be after market and a 4" barrel. Smith & Wesson on one side of the barrel and S.&W. .357 MAGNUM on the other side of the barrel. It also is in very good condition. No pin above the cylinder on this one. Port side on both guns have the S&W trademark near the grip area and the starboard side is marked "Made in U. S.A. MARKAS REGISTRADAS, SMITH & WESSON SPRINGFIELD, MASS.
Both of the revolvers have smooth trigger pulls. What would be a fair price range for these handguns? Date of manufacture? Thanks to all.
Worry is the interest humans pay on the debt of miscalculation.
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Well, to start with S&W didn't make any Mod 19s in stainless, sure they aren't nickel? The Mod 66 was made in stainless and looks just like a Mod 19. I'll assume these are both factory nickel,if in about 95% condition with no boxes or acessories, I'd say $475 - $550 for the pair would be a fair deal between friends.If they were originally blue and have some sort of refinish,they should still be nice shooters(no collector value at all),and are worth the bottom of that price range. The 6" gun was made in 1980, the 4" in 1981.The 1980 gun is about when they stopped "pinning" the barrels,the red ramp on the other is probably factory. Grips aren't a big concern,authentic factory K-frame grips of this vintage are fairly cheap and easy to obtain. Very good condition can vary a lot depending on who's doing the grading,the above prices should be in the ball park. Hope this helps. 0 -
Thanks Barrocky,
I think they are model 19's. When the cylinder is open, the model # and serial # are visible (but very tiny to these old eyes)on the frame in front of the cylinder. They must be nickel plated and they must be factory as my freind bought them new and I'd say they would be at 95% or better. The only visable scratch I saw was a small one on the adjustment screw on one rear site. He says he still has the boxes somewhere. He has a jumbled up mess of guns, original boxes and ammo in a large reinforced closet, maybe 100 or so handguns that mostly look like junk. He did pull out a NIB Sig .45 while I was there that he "forgot about". He also has a couple of nice SxS shotguns I want to get a good look at soon.
He thought $250.00 each for the model 19's was fair, and so did I. You also indicate this is reasonable so I'll go see him tommorrow. He wanted a NIB Ruger KP-90DC as trade for the two S&W's.
I'll give him his choice of the Ruger or $500.00. Thanks again for your input.
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Go for it. The same guns at auction would probably be priced at $300 -$325 each,at a show you would probably have to look a while to pick one up for $250 in excellent condition. As a comparison,my favorite out of state dealer has a little older version of the same gun for sale. His is a 19-3,nickel finish - 4" barrel - factory target grips - wood presentation case - ANIB, only has a very fine drag line. The price is $375 shipped, which isn't too bad with the wood box that's worth $50 alone,and no charge for shipping. These guns are all new ( in gun years) and have little collector value right now, even so, it's always a good idea to hang on to the original boxes. If the nickel is dull,you can polish it up to look new easily. I use a product called "Flitz",it's expensive at about $17 a tube but works great on nickel,I've heard "Semi-Chrome" also cleans nickel well. These polishes will remove fine scratches,be careful not to get too aggressive on a deeper scratch,it's possible to rub right through the nickel...takes some doing,but it can happen. 0
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