Now I have a question on Bump firing
I have heard this term and know what it is, but how does one go about doing it? I thought that you were supposed to pull the gun away from your shoulder by the forearm, allowing the recoil to push it back while constant pressure pulled it instantly foward again, causing rapid fire. I tried this with an M1, SKS, and MAS 49/56 and couldn't get a bump fire out of any, though the MAS occasionally slam fires and once she starts she often don't stop till the clip is empty. I don't have that problem with mil spec primers, incidentally.
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"...hit your enemy in the belly, and kick him when he is down, and boil his prisoners in oil- if you take any- and torture his women and children. Then people will keep clear of you..." -Admiral of the Fleet Lord Fisher, speaking at the Hague Peace Conf
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I watched a guy do this with an SKS. What he did was put his finger or thumb over the trigger and hook it on one of his side belt loops.
He then pulled the gun forward by the forearm to fire the first shot, as he held the gun forward the recoil would reset the trigger and then it would keep repeating the cycle. BE CAREFUL!!!!!!
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Shooting at the shoulder using the bump method takes some work and getting use to. Best technique I have seen and used to master bump firing (right handed):
(1) Hold weapon "assault style" at the hip.
(2) Find a comfortable balance point at which you can hold the firearm comfortably at the forward handguard with the left hand.
(3) Make sure the end of the weapon, to your right side, does not touch any part of your body. It should be held completely with the left hand, and without other support.
(4) Hold your right hand up in front of you like you are going to "karate chop" forward. Bend the index finger in at a 90 degree angle from the rest of your hand. Insert that finger only in the trigger guard. Keep it firm.
(5) Don't make the mistake of thinking your right hand, with the extended finger, is suppose to do anything in the way of movement. It should be firm, fixed. A stick held in your grasp would be as effective as your right index finger when bump firing.
(6) Keeping your right arm, right hand, and right finger completely stationary, and the firearm floating free from the body, push forward on the weapon with your left hand.
(7) Experience the thrill.
(8) There are different techniques to make this work with different firearms. This technique is for a rifle, such as an SKS, Mini-14, AK47/S or similar rifle. And it's best to have three or four firearms available when first trying this. With one SKS it might work, with another, no. With one Mini-14 it might work, with another, no. The trigger pull plays a big part in how easy it is to do. Also, it can be used on pistols, such as the Professional Ordnance Carbon 15 (what a blast), the M11/9 with fake supressor, and Tec-22 when loaded with hot ammo. Basic technique is the same. Where to grap the weapon is different.
(9) Three biggest reasons it won't work: (A) you think the trigger finger should do more than act like a wooden dowell (B) the stock end of the rifle is touching part of your body (C) the trigger on the particular gun you are using isn't suitable for bump firing.
(10) Report back with results.
NOTE: Those trigger attachments such as the ASIV and Hellfire will sometimes help the trigger action when bump firing, or sometimes hurt it. That depends on the gun, and the particular trigger. Sometims guns which couldn't normally be bumped will be aided by the device. Sometimes the gun will work better without the device. I doubt there is anything that would help with the HK91 or Cetme. Trigger pull is too long and heavy, because they were designed to withstand drops from helicopters and such without firing.
Edited by - boeboe on 11/05/2002 20:34:350 -
Somebody wrote this on another forum and I have yet to try it, but it sounds like it would work and be a lot of fun.
"I had a very interesting time shooting in the woods yesterday while trying something that occurred to me. While engaged in mentally tossing around various methods of modifying firearms to fire close to full-auto in a BATF legal fashion, just for theoretical fun, it occurred to me that the problem with most bumpfiring is the inherent lack of accuracy that comes from the easier from-the-hip form. I thought about putting a pistol-grip on rails might allow someone to keep the gun at the shoulder while using the potential energy of the recoil, which is what bumping is all about. Then a much simpler idea occurrd to me. I thought that a simple string tied in a closed loop that when placed around the shoulder and led to the trigger, and was nearly the same size to cover the normal length-of-pull from the shoulder to the trigger, would serve as an efficient bump-trigger.
In a pinch, just to test the theory, I used some no-stretch nylon construction layout string and made the loop described above. When doubled in a closed loop, it was about the same length as my length of pull. I put ther string around my shoulder, then put two winds around the trigger to secure it and raised it to my shoulder and aimed. There is no point in tying it inside of the trigger guard. Leaving it outside makes it easily removable and works as well. I brought it around from the left side of the rifle, but I'm sure the right side will work as well. Then I simply pushed the rifle away from my shoulder until it fired and maintained the pressure. Voila! Bumping while actually aiming with much improved accuracy. As with all bumping, the harder you push the gun forward, the faster the rate of fire. . .until you reach the point of no return and the disconnector engages and the trigger won't reset. That takes finesse and varies from gun to gun.
I discovered that the "T" reticule on a Kobra is what I suspected it is for: full auto at closer ranges. l placed a target inside the gap in the "T" and let it rip. Hang on! It's unbelievable. The Romy vertical forward grips really come into their own for control with this method.
You haven't lived until you try this form of bumping with a .308 rifle like a G3 or a CETME. My CETME went at very near the cyclic rate of 650 rpm. An awesome experience in .308!
It is important to use a string with very little stretch. I have since thought of using those strap-type key rings that people wear around their necks. . .or perhaps something like that sewn into a shooting vest that can just be slid around the trigger that dangles when not used. Give it a "shot" so to speak. You will be amazed."
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As I was reading these comments about BUMP firing It occured to me that with this open forum,any young,inexperienced,eager youngster could also read it. I for one would rather not think about what trouble or harm they could do with such information.
The sport of cowboy shooting has been ruined by first time gun owners due to their inexperience and trying things that,without basic skills get them into trouble.Just as constantly reminding them to watch the end of the barrel.
Please don't mind me,I'm just thinking outloud.
BILL
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