powerbelts or sabots in encore muzzleloader
I have a encore 209X50 muzzleloader and have been shooting T/C Mag sabots with 3 pyrodex 50 grain pellets don't seem to group real good any thing better maybe differant powder or bullet Thanks Kevin I only shot 20 shots how long for break in
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Try dropping back to 2 50gr. pellets. Also try a couple other brands of bullets. Each muzzleloader seems to like a slightly different powder charge and a different bullet. Just because a gun is 150 gr. capable doesn't mean you will get the best group with that much powder. 0 -
My knight bighorn mag seems to do better at 130 gr pyrodex, 2x50gr,+1x30gr. 3x50 seemed to hurt accuracy, or it was the threshold at which I flinched-Ralph
Nothing very, very good or very, very bad lasts for very, very long.0 -
I have to agree with REBjr, try the 130 gr. route works good in my encore , powerbelt bullets shoot good but I have been told by guys that have use them on deer that they are a little soft, don't know myself as I have only shot them at paper so far,, I do know that the Hornaday 45 cal bullet in a sabot knocks the heck out of a deer
Edited by - gskyhawk on 10/11/2002 22:08:370 -
I have a T/C Omega and I shoot 2 pellets of clean shot powder. The 240 gr work great in my rifle. But a muzzleloader can be picky about what it shoots. The most common XTP bullet weight for a 50 cal sabot muzzleloader is the 240 gr HP. Don't for get that XTP also makes a 180 gr and a 300 gr XTP bullet Try one of these other weight bullets and a 2 50 gr pellets. You may find what you are looking for. I have a card of the power belt bullets. One of the major muzzleloader manufractures told me never shoot a green sabot in a mag 50 cal muzzleloader they don't work well. I tried them in My Austin Halleck and I could not hit a 12" target at 100 yards.
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Ok, you seem serious about your search for accuracy and I know what you're going through, I had the same problems a couple of years ago.
We read all the hype about inline performance but fall short at the range! I'm telling you the first thing you have to do is forget about the pellets. I have used them, even made my longest kill with a muzzleloader with them-luck shot though. The key is consistancy with your load method. Wet, dry swab between each shot, no lubes or seasoning agents when using sabots. Now, in reality the heavier bullets (300gr) often give better accuracy in 1 in 28 twist guns, but most inline shooters want velocity. So, that said 240gr 44 cal or 240-260gr 45 cal bullets are usually my choice in sabots. Now here's the secret.....SHHH.....index the sabot so the petals correspond to the rifling and recover your fired sabots and inspect and adjust until all rifling grooves are on the petals. Once you have found the spot, load all sabots the same way. This will shrink your group and eliminate those unexplained fliers. This will only work of course if you have prepared the bore in a consistant manner and referenced the proper seating depth on the ramrod. Also I highly recommend buying a couple brands of sabots and the bullet you intend to use separately this allow further tayloring. Your recovered sabot should look like0 -
I helped one fellow that had the same problem with his Remington muzzleloader.Get yourself some powder instead of pellets.Get some diffrent bullets and start with 80 grains of powder.Fire three shots and measure your group.Raise your powder to 85 or 90 grains and repeat until you find what your muzzleloader likes.You may have too try diffrent bullet and powder combo to find exactly what your gun likes. Hunter 0 -
Do these bullet suggestions work equally well in a flintlock. I am new to black powder and will participate in the PA flintlock season this year. 0
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