Gotta problem maybe yous Colt guys can hep me wit
Ok ... and I don't need any grief from yous Colts guys ... an aquaintance has a brand new, in the box unfired Stainless Double Eagle in 45ACP AND a brand new, in the box unfired Stainless Delta Elite(they were all 10m&m's weren't they?) , he's offered them to me at what I think is a reasonable price ... putting the book aside, what should they be worth? I've looked around at the auctions but have found very few that are NIB, and even slightly used ones dont come close to the book price - and the demand seem to vary quite a bit ... any help?
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I WOULD THINK BETWEEN $1600.00 AND $2000.00 WOULD BE THE SELLING PRICE ON THIS AUCTION SITE FOR THOSE GUNS. NIB COLTS ARE HARD TO FIND.
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kimberkid
OK no grief. Its hard but no grief. The Delta Elite is starting to show more and more collector interest and should be in the neighborhood of 800 to 1000 NIB. The Double Eagle was a Colt abortion (I have a lt wt DE Officers) that thankfully had a very short life. Not much collector interest but should still be worth 500-700 NIB. Like duckhunter said NIB Colts are getting harder to find. Especially the discontinued models.
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I've got a 1968 Corvette Stingray with the original dual-quad 427 engine. Putting the book aside, what should it be worth? 0 -
Is it showroom NIB, not a rebuild? Are we assuming none of the rubber has rotted away? I'd venture a guess around $70-90K ... not that I'd ever buy one ...
I've seen the book on the above described Colts ... looked around and saw some pretty high prices people were asking for LNIB($900-$1200), but they weren't selling ... other people had some LNIB with box and papers were getting $500-$700 ... these are NIB, thus my question.
If Colt "The Genuine artical", does depreciate that quickly, I guess I'll stick to Kimbers!
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Depreciate quickly?? Come on now kimberkid these models are less than 15yrs old. They may not have appreciated much yet (bought new Delta Elite in '93 for 720 new Lt Wt Officers Double Eagle for 600 in '94)but they haven't depreciated.
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Punchie - by depreciate I only meant how much the value drops between NIB and LNIB ...
... But at any rate ... Friday I'll be the proud owner of the not only the above mentioned Colt Double Eagle and Delta Elite ... but also a NIB MAK-90 ... good grief
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kimberkid@gunbroker.zzn.com0 -
I assume the Corvette inquiry is tongue-in-cheek to show the problem with all these value questions. Since no 1968 Corvette ever came with "dual quads," it cannot be original in that configuration, and that would hurt the value greatly. (Is this part of the "test," Rocklobster?) Now if the 427 has the factory three-two-barrel setup, which was a offered on 1968 Corvettes, the value would be enhanced. The question that needs to be answered to determine value is whether it is a 390HP, 400HP, 435HP, aluminum-head-435HP, or L88 427? The price can double or triple, depending on the answer to that question.
As far as the Double Eagles, they are the ugly step-sisters of Colt collecting. Some day, they will be more highly valued, but I do not think they are as high as Duckhunter says, yet. However, he is very successful at getting more for his stuff than it is worth, so maybe he is right. (Just kidding John!)0 -
Well as it turns out I was able to get to my FFL today to pick them up, for being Colts they are pretty nice (stir-stir-stir) Although it's aginst my nature ... these may all become safe queens for the next 10 or so years even the MAK-90, which is one of the early models and has very nice wood, also unfired ... the styro-foam is even in excellent shape ...
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Actually the 1968-1973 Corvettes did come with a factory dual-quad setup, rated at 435 HP. It was not a standard configuration, but a special-order option. I happen to know that, because it's sitting in my garage right now, with the factory "snowflake" cast-iron intake manifold and two Holley carbs. The casting numbers on the block, heads, and intake all agree (by the book, by golly) that it's a high-performance package, offered by Chevrolet from 1968-1973. It was bought new in 1968 by my Dad, I was 15, and went to the dealer with him when he ordered it. It was then, and is now, the fastest everyday driver in this neighborhood or any other that I've been in. It's also faster than most medium to heavily modified cars I've run into. Did get outrun once by a Hemi-Cuda. Only outran me by one car length, and I never got to try again after I'd tweaked on the carbs, because the Cuda's hemi died a loud and grisly death, like most hemis.
What this is about, however, is that one must have some sort of guideline to go by when determining the worth of objects of value. There are many factors which determine an object's value-it's rarity, condition, desirability as a collector piece, etc, etc. You have to go by the book, then negotiate from there, depending on your actual knowledge of the item, gleaned from actual fact, not some magic formula you've dreamed up. You can't just decide it's worth for yourself, and throw away the book.0 -
Oh, BTW, there were no aluminum-head 427's in those years, and no L-88 in 1968. 0 -
Hey Rock!
In most cases I agree with what you say that one must have some sort of guideline to go by when determining the worth of objects of value, however the reason for asking was because the prices I've seen a few actually sell for are well below the book, and people that are asking the book prices don't seem to be selling them ...
I too am a long time admirer of Corvettes, my son (at the wheel) hopes to have mine someday!
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