Rossi 92 receiver strength for 454 Casull
I came across this article over at SIXGUNNER. It has some interesting reading. Check it out. It gives some interesting insights as to why the Rossi 92 can be chambered in 454 Casull. You can also contact the author.
BITS & PIECES....WILDCATS
http://www.sixgunner.com/paco/bits5.htm
"A sword is never a killer, it's a tool in the killer's hands"
Lucius Annaeus Seneca "the younger" ca. (4 BC - 65 AD)
BITS & PIECES....WILDCATS
http://www.sixgunner.com/paco/bits5.htm
"A sword is never a killer, it's a tool in the killer's hands"
Lucius Annaeus Seneca "the younger" ca. (4 BC - 65 AD)
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I WOULDN'T BET MY LIFE ON IT. 0 -
BITS & PIECES is a good title.
Maybe the 92 action will take it, maybe not. Try it, and you (or your next of kin) can let us know.0 -
I never trusted Spanish guns.
You can't make a silk purse out of a sows'ear.0 -
I bet none of you even read the article.
It is a good thing that Samuel Colt, Elmer Keith, Eugene Stoner, and (endless list) did not follow your line of thinking. We would still be using clubs and rocks.
"A sword is never a killer, it's a tool in the killer's hands"
Lucius Annaeus Seneca "the younger" ca. (4 BC - 65 AD)0 -
yanqui, you have to look at other things besides the strenght of the action. i have a m-92 rosi in .44/40 that i shoot low end .44 mag. loads in works just fine except that i've cracked the stock twice. with the 454 c. recoil will be much more so you might shoot a mag. tube loose as well. any time you depart from the normal there is a price to pay. some time ago i have a customer with a m-21 win. trap gun he got from his father, he thought the more shoot you threw at a target the better chance you had of hitting it. he reloaded some very heavy loads, the gun held together but the stock didn't. same with the m-92, this action only has about 1/3 sq. inch of stock contact for recoil transfer. 0 -
Nowhere in the article does the author support converting the Spanish '92 Rossi to 454 Casull. This isn't a small high pressure cartridge but a fat, high pressure cartridge shooting a heavy bullet; a different ball game.
I reread the article and reiterate: I don't trust Spanish firearms.
This opinion is based on personal experience with cheap commercial Spanish, Belgian and Italian guns which I group together as a class.
Even if one could glass bed the buttstock to better transfer loads into the wood I would not be surprised to see serious problems such as bearing failure in the lockup, problems at the unsupported bolt face at the ejector, bulged chamber, sprung frame and breakages of other mechanical parts.0 -
Spanish 92???
The Rossi 92 is made in Brazil. The imported language in Brazil is Portuguese. Portuguese is the language of Portugal. So maybe it should be Portuguese 92.
A cracked stock is all?? That sounds pretty life threatening to me!!
Bearing failure in lockup?? I didn't know that the Rossi 92 had bearings. Man you learn something everyday.
...breakage's of other mechanical parts?? They are just trying to be American capitalists like our automotive industry.
I see that many here take the title of "Ask the Experts" seriously to heart.
"A sword is never a killer, it's a tool in the killer's hands"
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Yanqui - I believe what V35 is spealing of in "bearing" is load bearing surfaces / parts ... not wheel bearings ... or maybe it's beering (hic)
"A Fear of Weapons is a sign of Retarded Sexual
and Emotional Maturity" Sigmund Freud
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Yanqui, If you have all the answers why not just act on them and not
trouble yourself with opinions of fools masquerading as experts.
Bearing failure is an engineering term meaning failure of a surface from compressive forces. Again, if you're going to experiment with dangerous things it's a good start to learn how to research technical
factors involved and try to understand their implications.
Yes, while Portugese is the language in Brazil, the people are similar and their gunmaking history is the same. This gun is a reissue of the earlier Tigre.
Now, Sonny, tell us exactly where the author endorses conversion of the Rossi to 454 Casull.
You know hopping up guns and ammunition is not a casual business.
For one thing, you have to know how to read.
A bad guess can get you hurt.0 -
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It gives some interesting insights as to why the Rossi 92 can be chambered in 454 Casull.
Note this said nothing about conversion. The Rossi 92 is now being manufactured in .454 Casull & I believe that is what he is referring to.0 -
Yanqui: - I am betting you would not know cast iron from tool steel - let alone air, oil or water hardening. How about uses of the various types of steel? Do you know what a Rockwell C scale? Brinnel?
Next, we delve onto manufacturing tolerances, fir finish and clearances, and tooling.
There is a reason cheap guns will not bring the money the Smiths, Colts, will - they are built cheaper.
If that won't convince you, coincide this: If the factory thought they could sell more guns, they would offer that chambering. They know what the limits of power they can use are.
Seriously, you stand as good of a chance of hurting your target, or hurting the shooter. It might work, but the stress encountered while firing will weaken the steel more each shot. Kind of like a hand grenade with a fuse that might go off instantly, or in years.
Not my style. You on the other hand may feel lucky, let's hope the same for those around you, should you shoot such a weapon.0 -
I dont know much about Engr.terms or that other technical stuff,but I did see a sows ear made from a silk purse. 0
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