C&R Question
I've got a m-92 win. up for auction here (#46161756) that has been copletely rebuilt but to all original spec's. it this still c&r transferable. A potential bidder wants to know. thanks.
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Is it "better" in BATFE's eyes to sell guns acquired on C&R to another C&R holder, than a non-license holder? In other words if you get inspected, does one "look" better than the other?
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You can download from the ATF the form ATF F 5310.16, http://www.atf.treas.gov/forms/5000.htm#firearms
It must be printed on legal size paper, follow instructions on it for the mailing address and the fee is $30 for a 3 year license.
You can only order what is on their list of C&R's, if your State or local laws prohibits any of them you are not exempt and can not order them even with the license.
You are strictly bound to only purchase with the license and if you sell anything you have purchased you are in violation of the law.
You can change stocks- sporterize, but if you get a SKS and go full tilt with it you have assembled a assault weapon and people don't like that. Consult the firearm rules & Regs. books they will send you for your federal and local regulations.
Do not start buying and selling as they will raid your home and make you front line news on CNN.
They have consent to search your home if you have the license to verify compliance, so don't try to screw the system. I have heard from some that they ask if they can view your logs at your home or another location but if they have ANY probable cause they will raid your house in the 'Homeland Security' mindframe.
If I'm wrong on any of this someone please correct me, I'm no expert.
PS..If you want to buy and sell get the full tilt FFL, it's only $150 and you are supposed to sell at least on weapon in three years to be eligible to reapply.
Also you must store your weapons and ammo in compliance with local ordinamces, check them also.
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http://freedomca.townnews.com/marysville/index.inn?loc=detail&main=Merchandise&sub=Sports-Hunting
"ALL PRIVATE PARTY sales or transfers of any firearms, including antiques and curio/relic rifles and shotguns, must be conducted through a licensed dealer."
If you are in California even with a C&R License you must go through a NICS check, pay the fees, and wait ten days before you receive a weapon.
So getting a C&R in Cali is useless unless you get everything out of State...I think...anyone else have any input? I'm no expert here just looking for the facts and posting what I see.
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Your C&R license allows you to trade or sell freely to other license holders for the purpose of enhancing your personal collection. If you intend to make sales to unlicensed individuals you should be aware that the BATF may consider such activities as being a dealer. Stay safe and sell only to other C&R holders. You are not bound by law to keep any gun you purchased with your license, just be careful how you dispose of it. It is legal to sell to an unlicensed individual in your home state, just don't do it too often. Thats trouble coming.
Unless the BATF has some honest reason to believe that you are in SERIOUS violation of a major firearms regulation, the chances of a C&R "raid" are practically non existant. Most C&R's NEVER even see an
ATF compliance inspector, much less have their homes raided. You can arrange to have your records inspected at another location- say your office- if you wish. Keep in mind that you have no special exemptions for regular firearms, you are only allowed to purchase Curio and Relics. You'd still have to visit your gun dealer to buy non C&R firearms. Enjoy your license, but remember, you are a collector and not a dealer. Keep that frame of mind and you'll be fine.
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Thanks for the advice. I am assuring you that I do not intend to buy and sell with my C&R. the reason I am asking all those stupid questions is because I want to know what am I getting in to. I was just checking for possibility of getting stuck with relic that was bought and not being able to sell it if needed. That doesn?t mean that I would buy and sell every weak but lets say I wanted to make a space for new relic and wanted to get rid of other rifle to replace it.
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To answer your question about the Mauser, to be considered a C&R a military firearm must be in it's original military configuration. So, if you bought a Mauser as a C&R, and then installed a sporter stock, it would no longer be a C&R. You could keep it, but, if you later decided to sell it, you would have to sell it as a regular firearm: to an unlicensed individual in your state, or a FFL in any state. You could not sell it to a C&R holder in another state.
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