To big for me?
hey all im new to this board..i got a question..
my step dad owns a Savage 110f 30-06. im tempted to shoot it.. he said i could but he warned me.. it kicks like a horse.. im only 14, are there any ways to knock the recoil down?? or if i did shoot it, can i be sure i wont 'kill' my shoulder? the highest recoiling gun ive shot so far is a mossberg 590 12 gauge with 3" shells and it dosnt even really hurt at all anymore(ive been shooting it for about a year)
thankz
my step dad owns a Savage 110f 30-06. im tempted to shoot it.. he said i could but he warned me.. it kicks like a horse.. im only 14, are there any ways to knock the recoil down?? or if i did shoot it, can i be sure i wont 'kill' my shoulder? the highest recoiling gun ive shot so far is a mossberg 590 12 gauge with 3" shells and it dosnt even really hurt at all anymore(ive been shooting it for about a year)
thankz
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1. get a recoil pad for your shoulder, or a folded towel if that is handy.
2. use ammunition with a bullet wieght under 160 grains. remington sells .30-06 ammo with a 55 gr, 88 gr, and 110 gr heads. a 147 gr or 150 gr load should be ok.
3. make sure the stock is pulled firmly into your shoulder, and that your cheek has a firm contact with the stock.
4. practice your grip and hold on the gun and dry fire on an empty case or snap cap a few times to ensure number 3 is followed.
5. listen to and follow your fathers shooting advice.
6. always wear eye and ear protection
7. treat all guns as if they were loaded.
What other dungeon is so dark as ones own heart, what jailer so inexorable as ones own mind.
Edited by - mrmike08075 on 09/15/2002 14:02:560 -
i would think that if you can handle a 12 ga 3" shells you would be able handle a 30-06 the only way to know is try it.
doc
ps welcome to this site dont be afraid to ask questions here.
also fallow Mr miks rule number 5 !
Edited by - cowdoc on 09/15/2002 15:13:320 -
If You can shoot a 3" 12 Guage, You should have no problem with the 30-06....
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aight thanks alot for all the help.. i might just shoot it 
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Shoot it, enjoy it, and don't forget rule #5 0 -
yeah i know all the rules i got my foid card when i was 11 0 -
hey i got a question how far could you shoot with 160 grain shells before it starts to drop alot?? i would be using this mostly for range and coyotes since i cant hunt deer with a rifle in illinios
im just ganna go out and shoot it.. if i get knocked on my a$$ ill know it kicks to hard :P0 -
at 250 yds you will have dropped about 6 inches dependind on bullet type/geometry. check out the back of a GUN DIGEST for ballistic tables, and pick up some catalogs at the gun shop on you next visit. most major ammo producers list ballistic info in there cats.
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As far as it being to heavy it totally would depend on the load being fired. General rule of thumb is the heavier the bullet the harder its gonna kick. But then again there are execptions to every rule. If your just gonna be plinking around, and your shooting factory ammo, go to the sporting goods store and buy the lightest cheapest ammo on the shelf. Just my opinion.
If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.
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I also believe, that if you've tried a 12Gauge 3", you'd be able to shoot the rifle.
Just be carefull if it's a light type of rifle.
First time I shot a 30-06, it was a Parker Hale Safari. (BEEEEEEEEP) it hurt a bit.
But I've practised for 200-meter competition since I was 11-11? with a 6.5*55. (just about the same, 30-06 kicks a little tiny bit more..)
Just get it settled firmly on your shoulder - and lean slightly forward to take the recoil, then you won't land on your bum.
Also be sure it isn't the heaviest bullet type that's stuffed in it, they do kick.
I use a 308Win myself right now, I'd have to use 180grains for it to even begin being uncomfy.
But the guys here are right on - for smaller game, 150grain is plenty. If you can get 125grain or maybe less, it all helps.
Have fun shooting it, if you get to that. (seems like you allready desided..)
Regards
Peter E Jeppesen
Greenland
Just owns a silenced .22LR Anshutz rifle =o) .308Win Steyr Mannlicher - Scout ;o_ That's all I need, but not all I want.
Don't do anything I've allready done - It's just plain stoooopid. =o)0 -
well.. im just ganna do like wut i did with my 20 gauge.. just shoot it and keep shooting it even though it hurts, i HOPE ill just get used to it and it wont hurt as much after time (*cough* maybe *cough*)0 -
i might just stick with the ol 336 marlin(30-30) it should drop a coyote.. im pretty good with it.. (wit out scope, i still need mounts.. might get some tomorrow yyaayy)
i think ima give coyotes a chance.. i think running them down wit a 4 wheeler is a lil easy? i dunno maybe them guys arent such led foots as me but i cant see a coyote outrunning me.. even in deep snow
whats the best long range rifle?what shoots flattest,farest?
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Ya know I was about your age when I got a Savage 110 in .270 for my birthday.
My fist shot, I was so shakey and scared, Just remember keep it in your shoulder! a recoil pad will help. It will take time to get used to it. Remember the first time you rode a bicycle and fell down a few times? same thing. You will learn how to hold it and shoot that -06 in no time. have fun!0 -
well what scares me.. is im only 5'5" and 115-120 pounds.. im pretty small.. but i dont want it to slow me down! but my step dad is way bigger than me and it hurts him.. thats why he doesnt shoot it... so.. im kinda thinking, if it does that to him, whats it ganna do to me? lol he said the recoil pads dont do anything.. they dont make it hurt any less..i dunno.. wut do they use on military sniper rifles? them things gotta kick like a horse, atleast the one i saw at a gun show.. looked more like a friggin cannon wit like a shell a lil over a inch wide.. like 4 inches long.. i dont remember if it had any recoil helping stuff on the butt of the gun but.. it was huge.. daz about all i can remember.. 0 -
I can see you're having trouble making up your mind, which is certainly understandable given some of the things you've said. Remember though that several of the experts here have told you correctly that if magnum 12's don't bother you anymore, 30-06 loads won't either. When I was about your age I was also using a 12 gauge and a 30-06, except that the 12 guage I used only chambered standard 2-3/4" loads. I remember distinctly that the shotgun recoiled more heavily, even with the lighter loads, than the '06. It's true that the weight of each gun makes a difference, but even allowing for that I don't see how the Savage would present much of a problem for you. One of the things I've done to cushion my shoulder is to take a piece of that plastic packing material with all the air bubbles in it and place it underneath my jacket to hold it in place. That's just one homespun idea -you can probably come up with something better.
To answer your earlier question, the 30-06 will shoot farther and flatter than the 30-30 due to the larger case and powder charge.0 -
you may want to try a beartooth recoil system it is only 13 or 14 $ it really works you can add pads until you get the correct pull good luck hunting and as others have stated before make sure you get a firm seat with the stock you will have no proablem with recoil
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I also believe, that if you've tried a 12Gauge 3", you'd be able to shoot the rifle.
Just be carefull if it's a light type of rifle.
First time I shot a 30-06, it was a Parker Hale Safari. (BEEEEEEEEP) it hurt a bit.
But I've practised for 200-meter competition since I was 11-11? with a 6.5*55. (just about the same, 30-06 kicks a little tiny bit more..)
Just get it settled firmly on your shoulder - and lean slightly forward to take the recoil, then you won't land on your bum.
Also be sure it isn't the heaviest bullet type that's stuffed in it, they do kick.
I use a 308Win myself right now, I'd have to use 180grains for it to even begin being uncomfy.
But the guys here are right on - for smaller game, 150grain is plenty. If you can get 125grain or maybe less, it all helps.
Have fun shooting it, if you get to that. (seems like you allready desided..)
Regards
Peter E Jeppesen
Greenland
Just owns a silenced .22LR Anshutz rifle =o) .308Win Steyr Mannlicher - Scout ;o_ That's all I need, but not all I want.
Don't do anything I've allready done - It's just plain stoooopid. =o)
Ah yes, another fan of the 6.5x55. Just out of curiousity, what kind of rifle was it?
If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.
The sound of a 12 gauge pump clears a house fatser than Rosie O eats a Big Mac !0 -
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i might just stick with the ol 336 marlin(30-30) it should drop a coyote.. im pretty good with it.. (wit out scope, i still need mounts.. might get some tomorrow yyaayy)
i think ima give coyotes a chance.. i think running them down wit a 4 wheeler is a lil easy? i dunno maybe them guys arent such led foots as me but i cant see a coyote outrunning me.. even in deep snow
whats the best long range rifle?what shoots flattest,farest?
Thankz
Yes, the .30-30 is great, I happen to own three of them myself, two Marlin 336 variants, and one Win94. If ya really want more power out of them, tell your dad to take it to a gunsmith and have it rechambered for the .30-30ackley improved. It won't cost that much, and you'll have to start learning to handload, but nows the best time, before you get old enough to get a job and a car.
And tell your dad you want an M1A for christmas....
If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.
The sound of a 12 gauge pump clears a house fatser than Rosie O eats a Big Mac !0
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