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Mauser and rolling block

Cletis
My father in law was given two rifles, a Mauser and a Remington rollingblock. Are there any web sights for Mausers? Just wondering what they are worth. The Mauser is in excellant shape, it has the sporterized stock and duel triggers. There are very few markings on it, there are 4 numbers on the butt plate and a few numbers on the bolt and what looks like a crown with a G under it. It has a 24 inch barrel and a ramp sight in the front with 2 leafs on the rear. Also don'ty know what caliber it is.
The rolling block is well worn, but not rusty. This has 3 bands holding the stock on and a bayonet lug. Also has a cleaning rod and a flip up rear sight. Caliber unknown.
Just wondering what these are worth and what caliber. Thanks
Pics- http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?selected=77981
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  • OleDuk
    Hello, Cletis, I still haven't checked the .22WRM magazine but I ain't forgot it!! I don't know about the Rolling Block, but the Mauser may be a between-the-wars conversion of a military gun. The Germans are fond of double set triggers and they used them a lot. I'd guess, and it's just that, a guess, that it's a standard 8x57 Mauser. It looks like the picture of an old Sauer rifle pictured in Ludwig Olson's book Mauser Rifles. Are there no markings on the left side of the receiver? How about on the bottom of the action hidden by the wood? The Crown G made me think it might have been a Carl Gustav specimen, but the Gustav used a Crown C and I think were M96's. Your gun looks like a M98 due to the guide rib visible on the bolt in one of the pictures, and other features.
    Regards,
    OleDuk
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  • Iroquois Scout
    Excellent pictures!! If only others asking about their guns would post such good pictures life would be much easier. Why don't we take the Mauser first? The Mauser is a large ring model 1898 military action probably made sometime around 1905-10. Sometime after 1918 this rifle was purchased by a German gunsmith as government surplus. The gunsmith then sporterised the rifle by reshapeing the stock,bending the bolt handle,removeing the military sights and replaceing them with sporting sights,removeing the military trigger and replaceing it with a civilian double set trigger. From the pictures I couldn't tell if the barrel was "stepped"or not. If the barrel is "stepped" then it is the original military barrel that has been polished and reblued. If the barrel is of a straight taper,then the barrel has been replaced. Neither could I tell the caliber of the rifle. The thing to watch out for is this,if the caliber of the rifle is 8X57 Mauser (also written 7.92X57) be sure to slug the bore to get the groove diameter of the barrel as there were two different bullet diameters used,the .318 diameter was the original one for the caliber and was used by civilian gunsmiths long after it was abandoned by the military in 1905. The present bullet diameter is .323. Do not try to fire a modern 8MM Mauser cartridge in the the smaller .318 diameter barrel. The Remington Rolling Block is really interesting. The rifle is a model 1871 Remington Rolling Block rifle in caliber 11.43X50R Egyptian. Between 1870-1876 Egypt bought 60,000 of these rifles from Remington. After these rifles became obsolete some of them were issued to the Egyptian National Police. This is what happened to your rifle. The markings on the barrel in Arabic is the Egyptian government property mark. The crescent moon and star on both sides of the receiver plus the E P mark on the left receiver is the mark of the Egyptian Police. The marks under the moon and star is the number 1913 in Arabic and may be the date of issue to the police. The muzzle of your rifle has a lug for a brass handled saber bayonet about 22 inches in length. Hope that this answers most of your questions. Scout
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  • Cletis
    Thanks for the replys. I couldn't describe them so I figured the pics would.
    The Mauser has a stepped barrel. These guns came from my mothers uncle. He claimed the Mauser was taken from a dead German sniper during world war two. He was the one that brought it back. Not sure where the Remington came from. He told us it was made for export, so he was right about that. Any idea on the value? Thanks again John
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  • Iroquois Scout
    John,I hate to be the bearer of bad news,but neither gun is worth a great deal. The Mauser is definitely NOT a sniper's rifle. It does not resemble the German sniper in any form not to mention the lack of a scope base. That someone at the end of the war used it to fire on American troops is a distinct possibility,but that doesn't make it a sniper. The rolling block looked pretty beat up and they usually don't bring much of a price unless it is an American military rolling block. I would think your rolling block would be in the $150 range. The Mauser would be worth more,particularly if someone is looking for an action on which to build a sporter.
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  • Cletis
    That's not bad news, my father in law was under the impression that it they were worth a lot of money. Now I don't think he'll try to sell them and they will probally end up in my collection. thanks for the info, I'm going to find a smith to look it over and make sure on the caliber.
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