Preban SKS Value
I've got a friend that said he had a sks he got awhile ago from his neighbor that looks like it was never fired, the guy bought it and gave it to his kids to play cops and robbers with. It's missing the gas tube and piston but is in A+ condition and the Norinco serial number is in the low #500's, one of the firsts. He has it in Kali unregistered of course and I was wondering what the value is for collection purposes?
Also let's say you bought one in Kalifornia and it was unregistered and not turned over for the ban, what are the consequences of getting caught with it? As I am here and not a resident I can eaily make it disapear from the state was just curious what would happen if caught at a public range with it.
Also let's say you bought one in Kalifornia and it was unregistered and not turned over for the ban, what are the consequences of getting caught with it? As I am here and not a resident I can eaily make it disapear from the state was just curious what would happen if caught at a public range with it.
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I see nothing but trouble here.
First, the term "preban" doesn't apply to any SKS as released by the manufacturer. It is not on the BATF "Semiautomatic Assault Weapon" list.
Second, the rifle is worthless without the missing parts. Maybe you can find someone who has them, but it won't be easy. Even New-In-Box, it was never "collectible"; with missing parts, it isn't even a shooter.
I'm sure that those who live in the PRK can better address the current penalties for violating that states gun laws; I am confident that all of them are unpleasant. After you devise a plan to get around their laws, think about it a second and a third time. Let's say, for example, you have a "fool proof" plan to remove from Kalifornia an unregistered "assault weapon" in the trunk of your car. You'll probably be successful, but, suppose that, by chance, something unexpected happens --- an accident, a random stop, a nosy person seated next to you at a restaurant. The police end up looking in the trunk of your car, and guess what happens next? You get arrested, you lose your savings, your guns, your job, and more. Will it be worth it, when all you had to gain was a junk gun? Think about it.
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It looks to me like a buyer's market here.
The rifle has legal problems if it remains where it is. You can make it go somewhere where laws are not so silly.
The rifle doesn't work.
Parts are available to fix it.
The gun is likely not very collectible, but you could have a motivated seller there, so you could get a heck of a deal.
I would consider offering to make it disappear to save my friend from possible embarrassment. For free.
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First off unless the SKS in question has a detachable magazine or has been modified to accept a fixed magazine over ten rounds you have no problems. Only detachable magazine SKS carbines were effected by the assualt weapons bans. You are also prevented under the new ban of 2000 to add a feed device- fixed or removable, which holds more than 10 rounds. If your friends SKS has neither of those features there is no reason to remove it from California. There seems to be much misconception about these SKS carbines. Only a few are actually effected and then only because they have features (grenade launchers like the Yugoslavian) which make them different from the standard models. SKS carbines are perfectly legal in California.
You were never requiered to "turn anything over" with any of these AW bans, unless of course you wished to simply relieve yourself of the firearm. In that case local police and sheriff's are authorized to accept the firearms...call ahead to make arrangements- don't walk in with the rifle in your hands! It has happened too many times.
Long guns are not registered in California and it would be difficult to prove that you either legally or illegally possesed a rifle or shotgun without a receipt from your dealer. Shooting a standard SKS carbine on a public range is going to attract no attention what so ever. Firing assualt weapons only attracts the curious- most police have better things to do, although there are hard core anti gun cops in the bigger cities who'll ask you plenty of questions. Running the serial numbers to check whether or not an assualt weapon is registered is easily done through a DOJ data base (also available for handguns) but each time an officer activates this data base a record of its use is recorded by the DOJ in Sacramento. DOJ will contact the officers agency to see why such information was needed -handgun and AW info is NOT available as public records. If the officer just felt like having a look see at you rifle for no good reason, his supervisor will be talking to him! This information is available for official uses only. My DOJ compliance inspector has
told me that even his use of these data bases are also recorded and he too must have a valid reason for searching through them. I would however STRONGLY recommend that your friend does not allow his kids to play cops and robbers with ANY REAL FIREARM! When the neighbors see that sort of thing the police will show up and they will have a very valid reason to access any firearms information that they please.
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