help me get a good deer rifle
Hi I want to get a decent deer rifle and was wondering what is a good caliber for deer hunting and what rifle is decent.
thanks Mark
thanks Mark
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Mark,
Are you hunting primary woods?? Or open........
Hard to beat either the 270, 30-06, or a 308 for all around hunting.
If your hunting brush the ol' 30-30 is not a bad choice.0 -
Mark, Are you just going to hunt deer or other things as well. You can get a good deer gun you can use for varmit also. Or you can get a good deer gun that you can use for larger animals as well such as Elk. What would be your price range, this will all help. 0 -
For the money and value, I suggest going to WalMart and buying a Remington 700 ADL, synthetic stock, in 30-06 caliber. They have them for under $400. If you want a scope, Bear Basin has Leupold and Burris scopes at a great price. I suggest either of those brands.
You can spend more money but have no better rig. But you can spend less and have a lot less rig.
Last piece of advice: Don't cut corners when you buy a scope and mounts.
My humble opinion,
Rafter-S0 -
i live in Maryland and plan to hunt there or PA. i am new to deer hunting( what is the difference between hunting in open field and brushes if i may ask) i was planing to get something in .308. my price range is about 400-500 $ less the better but that doesint meat that i want to get a junk rifle( just lokking to get good rifle for the money)
currently i borowed 6.5x55 swede sportized mouser from my brother do you think that this caliber is sudable for deer. i had newer shot it so i have no idea.
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Mark that 6.5x55 is an excellent white tail gun. See if your brother will sell it to you at a good deal. If the sportized job was done well, that gun should shoot better that any gun you can buy for 4-5 bills. 0 -
quote:Mark that 6.5x55 is an excellent white tail gun. See if your brother will sell it to you at a good deal. If the sportized job was done well, that gun should shoot better that any gun you can buy for 4-5 bills
Yeah, the 6.5x55 is a great white tail caliber. If you can't buy the Mauser, be sure to look at the CZ's and the Tikka's. They are within the upper end of price range.
You may also want to consider a Savage bolt action in .30-06 or .308. They are good, accurate, inexpensive rifles.
Another fine deer rifle for that neck of the woods is the Remington 7600 pump-action (PA = no semi-autos). Lots of folks really like this rifle, especially if they are regular shotgun shooters.
A decent Mosin-Nagant would fit your bill, too, for $150 or less, but soft-point ammo in 7.62x54R might be hard to come by locally.
If you are at a gun show and wander by a nice sporterized 7x57mm Mauser at a reasonable price, that will do the job for you also. So will an 8mm Mauser.
And without a doubt, the 30-30 is just fine for deer. So is the .35 Remington.
sundowner0 -
marek, go with either the Remington 700 ADL or the Savage 11F in .30-06. In MD or PA, you won't need either .308 or .30-06 (a 30-30 will do just fine) but someday you may want to hunt elsewhere or hunt bigger game and the .30-06 will fill that need.
The difference between hunting in brush and open fields is the length of the shots. Open fields may require 200 or 300 yard shots while in heavy cover, 75 yards may be a long shot.
Whatever you chose, be sure to practice enough so that you can hit what you mean to hit. With a little coaching and 200 - 300 rounds, you should be ready for deer season.
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Another issue in brush is deflection of your bullet. Higher velocity rifles (270, 30-06, etc) will deflect on even small twigs. A 30-30 has a slower velocity and is less prone to deflection. With that said..... all of the suggestions aboove will fit the bill well. 0 -
i would go with a winchester model 70 or the remington model 700 in cal from .243 to how ever big you think you want.
I cant comment on the savage rifles as i dont own any savage rifles.
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i hunt in pennsylvania for deer. i bought a savage kit gun (has a 3-9x scope and a cheap nylon sling) for under $400 at a dicks. while i dont like the sling the 3-9 scope is fine for most pa hunting as in most of pa it just isnt flat enough to get more than a 200 yd shot ( you can see a deer a long way with a scope on 9x). i bought the gun in 30-06 caliber. as for the deflection in brush some of that can be solved with using a heavier grain bullet and loads. that is an advantage of the 30-06 is the variety of commercially available rounds. anything light and fast to heavy and slow. i have had no troubles with the gun and i got it with a synthetic stock for durability. as for the accuracy i would say it is pretty decent, i dont have a long range to really test it, nor am i a particularly good shot. i can say i killed a deer at 80 yds through the neck no problem. and that is 2/3 of pa hunting for white tail. 0 -
Hi and thanks for all the help. i have one more question is .270 good round for deer and will it knock decent buck( if i see one) i had came acros a ruger chambered in .270 used but in excelent cond for 250$ with bushnell 4x12x50(i beleive ) my good friends father is buying a boat and despretly needs money so he is selling his stuff. he also have a remington m700 police sniper with nikon scope and hariss bipod he hants 400 for rifle or 450 for everithing. which should i get
other thing this might sound silly but dont you think the remington M700
is too hevty for hunting. i mean it has fluted barrel and garbon composive stock and does not feel too hevy but i don't know. Please post what you think
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sharkmans got it......308 or 30/06 package rifle. 0 -
Might give my Rem. Model 788 in .308 carbine (short barrel), some consideration. Handi in the brush. A shooter in good condition. Right now, I have a Redfeild Widefeild 3X9X scope on it for pig hunting. You could get into that for $399.00, and the $23.99 S&I TO YOUR FFL. If you don't want the glass, take $100.00 OFF. Contact: gwvr@cowboystate.net. Thanks, GW. ` 0 -
I would look into either a Ruger MKII or Remington BDL in 308 Winchester or 270 Winchester either caliber makes a very fine caliber for deer. If in the future you may think of hunting larger game I would go with the 30-06 Springfield as the 30-06 has taken dang near every big game animal in America. Just remember it is better to have a cheap rifle with good optics than a great rifle with cheap optics. I would look for a good used rifle for the money and put a good scope on it, you will be money ahead. Just my $.02 worth. 0 -
The .270 is a great deer caliber. I have a buddy who hunts here in Ga. in heavy brush with one and he slays them. Now it is true that a bigger, slower bullet will bust through brush better than the .270, but on most shots you are not hitting brush. If you got a good deal on a .270 get it. For that matter the 6.5 Swede is not a great brush gun. The point is, either wait for the deer to walk past the bush and into an opening, or look with your scope for a little tunnel through the brush through which to shoot your bullet.
To give you an example, I was hunting with a .30-06. I saw an 8 pointer standing still about 40 yards away in very thick brush. I saw the horns, I saw the tail, and I saw the top of his back. I couldn't see the chest but I knew where it was. I didn't figure he was going any where, there was no opening for him to walk into. So I said a prayer to the deer gods and fired for the middle of the lungs. That deer ran up the hill 30 yards and stopped still. He was still broadside, still concealed behind brush. I had missed cleanly! That was a 180 gr. Silvertip, a decent brush slug. I looked at that brush covering his chest and fired again. This time he ran 30 yards and folded up, a perfect lung shot. On that first shot the bullet was deflected at least a foot and completely missed. If I was a more responsible hunter I guess I would have not taken the shot. I was unlucky the first shot and lucky the second.
Edited by - allen griggs on 09/12/2002 11:20:420 -
quote: remington m700 police sniper with nikon scope and hariss bipod he hants 400 for rifle or 450 for everithing. which should i get
You are kidding right? I mean nobody could be this retarded could they? Doh!
When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....0 -
Mark, I live in MD and hunt whitetail year round through the use of crop damage permits. This is one state that will provide all types of hunting, i.e. dense woods, open woods and fields. The major difference is that the dense woods hunts, require very little firepower whith respect to rifles. Your shots will typically be less than 50yds, therefore, any legal hunting caliber is sufficient, even a shotgun. Now, your open woods shots will be 100yds or even 150yds through the trees. This requires more horsepower to "buck" the brush and limbs and stay on target as well as have enough retained energy. 308, 300sav, 260, 7mm-08 are perfect for this, cost less, and recoil less than your long action calibers. Not that they won't do for 300yds either, but for that, (field hunts) I would go with a long action caliber in the 270, 30-06, 7mm mag, 300 mag range. Flat shooting calibers are best for the field hunts, which can very often offer 200-400yd shots. You must first decide what type of hunts you will engage in, if you will engage in all types, then the obvious choice is a long action, as it will provide the energy and trajectory for everything. If you will be hunting the hill country and most often not hunt fields, you may wish to save the money on ammo and the pounding on your shoulder, and get a short action caliber. It will probably also be a lighter rifle with less barrel to whip around in the woods.
As for a rifle, I would look on the GB auctions and get yourself a nice 700 remington in your price range. The savages are also a very accurate rifle for the price.
A great rifle with a junk scope,....is junk.0 -
Look at the Gibbs Extream II or III. For the price it can not be beat. 0 -
I'd suggest the 30-06, the all around caliber. 0 -
Marek, all my life I have heard about "brush busting" calibers and can tell you it is all a lot of HOGWASH. As Allen indicated, a shot through brush depends on luck - nothing else. A true 'brush gun' is defined by ease of mounting/aiming with a short barrel for easy handling in close confines, not by the caliber. I guess I should qualify that opinion - a 120MM FSDS is a decent brush penetrator but even then depends on some luck!!
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I recommend a remington model 700 BDL in 270 winchester or 7mm remington mag. Both have less recoil then the 30-06, And pleanty of knockdown power for deer, Even at 600 yards.
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