Haenel 25 auto
Made in around 1956. Anybody have an idea what its worth ?or history of the company? Feels like a solid gun guy is asking $125. any comments?
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Haenel began as a light engineering company in Suhl in 1840. In around 1880 they aligned themselves with Suhl gun makers to manufacture the Reichsrevolver- the standard German service pistol at the time. Hugo Schmeisser, previiously of Bergmann, moved to Haenel in 1921 as cheif designer and engineer. The firms .25 acp, apart from Schmissers patented system for removing the barrel, was well made- but not remarkable. Military production consumed the firms efforts during the 1930's and commercial production ceased in 1939. Heanel did much of the pioneering work on the developement of the Stgw-44 (MP-43/44) assualt rifle. In 1945 the firm had the bad luck of finding itself in the eastern sector of Germany and its identity was lost as it was absorbed into the Ernst Thalmann Werke.
Mark T. Christian0 -
Like Mark said: HAENEL, C.G. C.G. Haenel Waffen und Fahrradfabrick, Suhl, Germany 1840 to 1945...Then Absorbed and HAENEL's name faded away..
The Little .25 Auto you discribe was designed by Schmiesser and Manufactured by Haenel from the early 1920's to 1939...There were two Variations and the values given are for Guns in Very Good Condition...
Type one...$275.00
Type Two...[Several ounces lighter]....$300.00
Captain Kirk, Tech Staff0 -
thanks for the information. now about that patented system for removing the barrel how is it done . the thing needs a cleaning bad one of those guns thats been in a box for at least 40 years
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Sawz, I was afraid that you would ask that question- how do you take the Haenel apart? I have only seen this done one time in 30 odd years so ANYTHING I were to tell you about the actual disassembly of the pistol would not be accurate enough to be assured of a safe take-down. I can tell you that the barrel is held in place by the recoil spring guide rod passing through a hole in a projection beneath the breech. This projection on the bottom of the breech then fits into a recess in the frame. When dismantled the slide can stay on the frame- the barrel itself is removed. I know that the key to this is the guide rod; when it pops out of its recess and springs out an inch ot two, the barrel can be lifted out of the frame. Look at the guide rod and try to see if there is some way to move it into a different position. I believe it is central to the operation. Good luck!
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Mark T. Christian0 -
Mark thanks for the info,I did pull the recoil spring rod out a bit tweeked it to one side and it caught without slipping back into the hole in the frame. Then I pulled the slide back till it cleared the flange on the barrel then lift the barrel straight up and out. Then if the empty mag was still in, (which seems makes it easier to disassemble up to this point cuz it holds the slide from springing forward ) holding the slide under control drop the mag and let it come forward easy. To reassemble just make sure that the firing pin assembly is in the right position, with the little cocked indicater back and the bigger housing firing pin towards the front I had this backwards for the first couple attempts and it didnt work so very good.Thanks again for the info couldnt of cleaned it without your help.
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Sawz, I'm happy to hear that my idea worked. I'd only seen one of these pistols stripped down and that was many years ago. I usually hate to go out on a limb about this kind of firearms advice; if the pistol broke, instead of thanking me you'd be sending me a bill from your gunsmith! Please go out and shoot the pistol and lets hear what you think of it. The introduction of the Walther PP and PPK really cut out the market share for the brands like Pieper, Ortgies, and Haenel. Not many of these "off brand" guns are fired anymore so lets get your opinion of its performance.
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