P7M8
What makes this gun so expensive? Is it just rare and imported? I don't know why anybody would pay so much for something so ugly. No offense, of course. Does anybody out there own one? What are they like?
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Everything made in Germany is expensive here - the deutschmark is very strong against the US dollar. Due to their high cost, the importation of Walthers from Germany had practically stopped before Interarms began to make them in the US.
I've only handled the P7M8, but it's ingenious design seems to work well; personally, I like the looks. However, it's like the Uzi: bigger than it appears in pictures, and twice as heavy.
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I bought one when they first came out. That was back in the days when the dollar to mark ratio was more in our favour. I paid $450 for in those days. It is the model with the mag release on the butt. It is a good shooting gun. The only problem with it is that it gets very hot if you shoot it a lot quickly. 0 -
Expensive and H&K go hand in hand. They make a good product and know it. The P7 is a very complex design and as such much fitting and machining is required when they are made driving the cost up even more than normal.
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MC:
Please tell me more about the .22 conversion kit for the P7M8. I have never seen one.
Really, these fine German pistols are not that much more expensive than many other high quality guns. The list price on some models of Smith & Wessons and Colts are about the same. (The retail of a Colt Python is now well over $1,000.) Pearyw, I will bet that $450 you paid for a new P7 would have bought a Python then too, so things relatively are about the same.
While described by some as complex, the pistols actually do not have all that many parts, and many of those are stamped. The over-center cocking mechanism is not all that complex, the striker mechanism has fewer parts than some hammer ignition mechanisms and the gas retard system is very simple.
These pistols are very accurate and reliable. The problem with heat buildup is due to the combustion gases heating up the gas retard system, situated just above the trigger, during sustained firing. The P7M8 and its high capacity sibling, the P7M13 have a trigger heat shield that early P7 pistols did not have. Still, the heat is noticeable but not a problem unless one is firing magazine after magaine as fast as possible.
One of the things I enjoy about guns is the variety of mechanisms. The P7 series of pistols are among the most interesting. They are good house guns because those not familiar with them cannot make them work.0 -
MC, I suspected you meant the P7K3, but I do not follow H-K guns as well as I should, so I wondered if I had perhaps missed an obscure European-only conversion for the P7M8 or the like.
Thank you for your kind words. My wife tells me I am wrong most of the time so it should not be long before you get me! However, I make it a policy not to post if I cannot give an answer I am pretty sure is correct, so I will not knowingly make it too easy for you. Some seem to be compelled to comment on evey topic (maybe trying to run up their post count?), but should not due to their lack of knowledge.0 -
I have had quite a bit of experience with the P7M8. It is an awesome pistol that shoots extremely well. It's design allows for probably the fastest mag changes of any auto. The squeeze cocker is a great safety feature when it comes to a house gun because the little ones don't have the hand size or the strength to cock it. The only real down side is it is very heavy compared to most other 9 mm pistols on the market. Proud owner for 14 years. 0 -
If want to try heavy, try the P7M10. My only complaint about the P7 pistols is you carry it uncocked, you point high. If you carry it cocked, it will fire very easily. And if you carry it with your finger on the trigger and squeeze the cocker it will fire.
I also have a P7M13 I use for IDPA and both work like a dream.0
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