Winchester 1890
What version is Winchester 1890 ser 301795, 2nd or 3rd?
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I have a Win. mod 1890. 22 short. It's rec. is fully engraved with a deer in a circle on one side and scroll work throughout the rest of it. It has a checkerd rear stock and a nickle inlay with initials in the heel of it. Fully nickle trimmed including the butt plate. The barrel is blue. The ser # is76XX The overall condition is about 97-98%.Never touched or restored. Does anyone know the approx. value of this 22? Also it has a proof mark that is a circle in a circle on the bottom of the front of the receiver. Thanks for any help.Len 0 -
sp45:...If you are a member of the National Rifleman Association, they will send you a copy of the instructions..If there is any charge, Its been so long since I ordered anything from them that I don't recall the exact cost, but it won't be much...Best....
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SP45 - I was in a similar predicament a couple months ago and recieved some great schematics and a written disassembly / assembly instruction document from members of this board.
Email me your address at my home email (mwalker@pronetisp.net) and I will put together a copy of this info and send it to you. I also have some very good scans of breakdown, but there is a very specific order it needs to be put together in, hence the worded instructions.
Taz0 -
taz; Thanks for helping out...best...
Captain Kirk, Tech Staff0 -
Capt - Happy to be able to repay a favor 0 -
wundudnee is an authority on Win. 1890's. He helped me and can probably help you. Give him a call here on the board. GHD 0 -
SP45....while you wait for some answers, you might enjoy the website below. I learned a lot about the one I inherited from my uncle. Mine is the third model and made,according to the S/N, sometime in the 40s. My uncle always told me of how he worked for a penny a day in order to buy it back in the late 20s. Hmmmm, lying to his nephew....
muley
http://twoponies.home.mindspring.com/1890winchester.htm
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SP45,
Take Tazmutt up on his offer. If you want a good reference book on these rifles it is Winchester Slide Action Rifles Volume 1 by Ned Schwing. It has about everything known about the 1890-1906 rifles.
Production data, manufacture dates, special order features and some dissasembly and assembly instructions.
GHD I ain't no expert on nuthin. I just have an uncommon interest in these things.
muley,
I got to visit with Donald Tusher "Two Ponies" a couple of years ago at the Tulsa gunshow, now there is an expert on these good old guns. Now about this prevaricating uncle of yours. Trying to pin down when one of these rifles were manufactured is tough. The receivers were made and put in a supply box and then assembled in no particular order so there could be quite some difference in age to similar serial #'s. They quit manufacturing the receivers in the early 30"s and continued making and selling them into the early 40"s. During the last years some could be found with model 62 parts such as hammers, triggers and some with round barrels with the correct 1890 roll die stampings. Let's see, a penny a day times $19.95 equals......Oh well any uncle that would leave me an 1890 would be alright in my opinion. wundudnee
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TRhank you everyone for your help. I bought a parts gun and am going to rebuild it. Tom 0 -
wundudnee....I forgave my uncle for his stretching of the truth because I found that I do the same thing with my grandkids. Not too much, but just enough to make it seem that I am God-like in their eyes. Also, I think a penny a day was a little off.
I emailed Mr. Tusher and according to the S/N of my rifle, 805XXX, it was his opinion that it was made in the 40's. My Winchester DOM book is unclear on the war years, to no fault of Winchesters. I think they were pretty busy then.
This rifle is the first I ever shot and still remains my favorite. My uncle would buy me a brick of shorts and I would have to shoot them single shot because this 1890 is a LR only. Each time I would shoot a Sparrow or other type of bird out of the orchard and garden, I would put the empties in a coffee can. If I missed, I would throw the empty away. When I ran out of live ammo, we would sit down and he would make a big deal out of counting the "hits". Then, that was the amount of bullets I would get next time. He was making me a good shot without my knowledge. Never thought of cheating at all. I guess that is the innocence of youth.
Anyway, thanks for the response.
muley
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SP45...OOOPS! I got carried away talking, as usual. Anyway, if you are rebuilding an 1890 and are looking for parts, I found a lot of parts at BOBS GUN SHOP in Royal AR. Their website is
www.gun-parts.com. Their email is gunparts@hsnp.com. Hope this helps.
muley
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I posted something about stripping nickel plate couple months ago. You might be able to do a search and find it. The product I used came from Brownell's and costs about $40. For that price you get enough to do a number of guns. It did a good job for me. Hope this helps. Robert 0 -
Muley,
Your uncle might not have stretched the truth too far if he were 8 to 9 years old at the time. My parents worked the cottonfields in Texas about that time for, basically, a flat rate of 25 cents per day. My dad averaged a bale of cotton a day, and received a bonus of 25 cents for his tally. I'm told that there was only one other man in Texas that matched him day in and day out. He was working the cottonfield as a 7 years old. He never had a rifle to hunt with as a youngster, they always hunted with rocks, sling shotsn and such for small game...but spent about ten days wages in the 50's to buy me a Winchester Model 42 for Christmas.0 -
kimi....You're probably not far wrong. I remember them talking about the .25 a day wages when my dad and uncle were young men. They all came out to Arizona from Lone Cedar and Goulbusk, Texas in 1918. My dad was born in 1905 and my uncle was born in 1910.
muley
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