How to reblue?
I read the discussion about to blue or not.How about how?I am curious about how to do at home refinishing.The differance between cold and hot blueing.How about parkirzation?Have any of you done it yourself?Thanks,CW
1.A near miss is still a miss!
2.Before I got married I spent half my money on women and guns,THE REST I WASTED!
3.Wasn't me!
4.KILL EM' ALL AND LET ALLAH SORT EM' OUT!
1.A near miss is still a miss!
2.Before I got married I spent half my money on women and guns,THE REST I WASTED!
3.Wasn't me!
4.KILL EM' ALL AND LET ALLAH SORT EM' OUT!
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I did a Kel-Tec a couple of weeks ago with Blue Wonder.The finish is better than it was new.It is simple and instructions are included.If you do home re-bluing I wouldnt reccomend anything else.Great product.
Eric S. Williams0 -
Yup, I'd say try some blue wonder, but wouldn't do anything past that. Them blueing chemicals are some bad stuff, and everyone I've met who does professional blueing jobs has been kind of a sickley person, as in physically.
If its on an old worn gun, you may look into having it industrial hard chromed. It will replace worn bearing surfaces, and it the hardest. Industrial hard chrome has a thickness of about .001" or less commonly .0004". And has a hardness of between 65 and 70 on the Rockwell C hardness scale. And the only way to get it off is via a really bad acid bath that would probably melt your whole gun. Its permanent, but its the best most practical finish available. And if you don't like its satin chrome color, you can always have a poly-coat done over it.
Now to answer some of your questions, there are really quite a few methods of blueing. But most of the home kits don't last very long, and are a real pain to apply.
Theres Cold Blue, which is an acid that causes controlled corrosion, is common in those little touch up blueing pins and reblue kits from walmart, but it sucks in my opinion.
Theres Heat Blueing which involves a propane torch and oil, but its really a pain to get just right and even, and I wouldn't advise someone to try it at home, cause you will screw the finish of your gun up it you haven't had lots and lots of practice.
Theres Rust Blueing which is a really old and tedious method, probably the oldest, involves about 2 weeks of your gun sitting over a tank of warm water, and several tedious applications of chemicals and cleaning and polishing and so forth.
Theres Professional Hot Dip Blueing which is done by factories with expensive equiptment and trained experienced personel. Involves caustic solutionss at very hot tempuratures.
Some alternatives would be Black Chroming, its a very nice finish, but not that durable. Black parkerizings. Poly-coating. Teflon. Epoxy bake on. Amer-lene. those will all get you decent black finishes.
Parkerizing is the process of phosphate coating, was invented somewhere aroung the 1800's but refined in 1910. Its very durable finish, currently available in even more shades of grey and black than ever. I think there's even a kinda dark grey greenish color out now.
I personally like the Glock Tenifer finish, but they won't give out their secret out to no one on how its done.
There are alot more types of finishes out there that I haven't mentioned that are available if your interested. Give me an email of a fax number and I can send you some photo copies of some material I've got.
If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.
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Thanks for the info Lee.My e-mail is cwatsonjr_90041@yahoo.com.When I said at home,I should have said do it yourself blueing.I wouldn't do anything at home,I would do it at my radiator shop.What I am planning on refinishing are a couple of enfield rifles and a RG pistol.Parkerizing sounds good for the rifles,the pistol I don't know.The finish has completely worn away but if I remember right it was a dark black twenty years ago,similiar to Jennings or Davis pistols finish.Thanks CW
1.A near miss is still a miss!
2.Before I got married I spent half my money on women and guns,THE REST I WASTED!
3.Wasn't me!
4.KILL EM' ALL AND LET ALLAH SORT EM' OUT!0 -
Just my opinion, but on the enfield I'd get a matte black backed on poly-coat. It will look just like the original finish, will last a little longer, and prevent corrosian alot better. Second to that would have to be a black parkerized finish. As far as the RG, Davis, or Jennings, it would be cheaper just to throw them away and buy new ones rather than refinish them, honesly. But they make excellent practice if you ever get into electroplating. I've seen several electroplated davis's in my day.
For do-it-yourself type stuff, go buy an old cheap oven, a timer, a couple of really big oven proof pans, and get some do-it yourself parkerize or poly coat stuff from Brownells. It doesn't last as long, and sometimes is obvious its not professional, but it will work.
That Blue Wonder stuff is really excellent though, you should try some for your little pistols. Just buy a kit, two extra tubes of cleaner, and a propane torch and your on your way. I don't know what the stuff is but it works. Takes a little elbow grease, but not nearly as much as previously offered home blueing kits. And it has a far superior finish. Closest thing to professional grade you can do yourself.
If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.
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I agree about not refinishing a Davis or Jennings,I don't own one but have shot them and have seen their quality,I was just compairing the finishes.The RG is a sentimental thing,and if it comes out OK I'll do a P-38 post war(sentimental#2).Thanks Again,CW
1.A near miss is still a miss!
2.Before I got married I spent half my money on women and guns,THE REST I WASTED!
3.Wasn't me!
4.KILL EM' ALL AND LET ALLAH SORT EM' OUT!0 -
I didn't see Belgian Blue mentioned. It is one of the easiest to use especially on small items. After cleaning the item you put it in boiling water to get it hot, then take it out and swab on the chemical. Then back into the boiling water, pull it out and rub with 0000 steel wool. Takes about four or five cycles of this to get a real dark, deep blue. Then boil in clean water for 45 minutes, then take out and oil with water displacing oil. It gives a good satin blue as dark as you make it. If the work is highly polished to start with, it still comes out satin. Hope this helps. 0 -
I tried to reblue a 22 awhile back,needless to say I made a real mess.Every one is saying positive stuff about Blue Wonder,and according to the directions that come with it.It should be fairly simple to do.
Best!!
Rugster
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