M1 Carbine prices
Hello,
I was told about a M1 Carbine that was for sale. I am going to look at it and was wondering what to look for when buying this rifle. The rifle is a M1 Carbine with a Universal Receiver. The owner said he would throw 3 boxes of hollow point, 3 boxes millitary, and a box of standard Winchester ammo. I would appreciate any help I could be provided with. I was also wondering what one thinks about the price of $350
Edited by - alvarads on 08/27/2002 22:06:13
I was told about a M1 Carbine that was for sale. I am going to look at it and was wondering what to look for when buying this rifle. The rifle is a M1 Carbine with a Universal Receiver. The owner said he would throw 3 boxes of hollow point, 3 boxes millitary, and a box of standard Winchester ammo. I would appreciate any help I could be provided with. I was also wondering what one thinks about the price of $350
Edited by - alvarads on 08/27/2002 22:06:13
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The M1 you are talking about is not US milatary. Several companeys produced them for the milatery. But Universal Sporting Goods was not one. Thay are not very well made. Sloppy receivers. I hade one for a short time. Now I have an Inland. It is a lot better made gun.
The Universal if in good shape might be worth $300.00 Tops. $200.00 would be plenty in my opinon though.
I have seen real M1 carbines go from $400.00 to $900.00.
If you dont care about it being an origanal. Check out IAI. Thay make an excelent reproduction.
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Not too good a gun. Try to get a genuine G.I. production model. I saw a Universal once that, after approx. 250 rounds, became junk when the left side bolt lug ate through the surface of the receiver in the guide channel, and thereafter jammed every shot as the lug rubbed against the receiver's soft steel. Not all specimens are that bad, but as production continued fewer and fewer parts were interchangable with the G.I.gun, which makes replacement parts increasingly difficult to come by as time passes. 0 -
Right now theres a company selling issue military M1 Carbines, surplus from US aresenals, not korean imports to law enforcement officers for $189 a pop. The advertisement is in shotgun news. If you can find a buddy who is a cop, who can get a letter head, get him to get you one. Best deal ever.
If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.
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Lee - Any chance you could cough up a number for that company ? I would jump on that deal in a minute. 0 -
No Prob. I've already got one myself. The ph# (800) 704-4867 the name of the company is GFCC Corp-Law Enforcement Sales Div. $189 a pop for LEO's only.
If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.
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Thanks Lee - Hopefully I'll be able to report new family member sometime in the not too distant future !! 0 -
Lee... Getting a cop friend to buy one on a dept letterhead makes for a good deal but, the cop could lose his job for doing it.
The letters are worded that the gun is used for the ofcrs official duties and is not for resale.0 -
I have been told by BATF that they will arrest anyone who violates the law concerning the sale of restricted firearms. Do so at your own risk.
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Lee, poor advice on the restricted M-1's. Suggesting for someone to violate the law isn't what I would call "Expert Advice". If caught, the officer and his department could be in serious trouble. A better recommendation is to simply spend the extra money to legally buy an unrestricted US military M-1 and be done with it. The extra that you'll have to pay is a lot less than the court fees if you were to get caught doing what has been suggested. There are plenty of real M-1's out there to be had. I just sold one 2 weeks ago in excellent shape for between $400-500. It was more than $189, but then again it wasn't going to cost $10,000 and/or 10 years in jail either. 0 -
no no no no, they aren't restricted.... There isn't such a thing, they aren't marked LEO only or anything like that. Its just the company selling them doesn't want to sell them to dealers. They are trying to give law enforcement officers a good opertunity on a decent firearm for a low price without dealers getting them and resaling them for higher markup.
THEY ARE NOT RESTRICTED.... NO WHERE DID I SAY FOR ANYONE TO VIOLATE THE LAW, IT DOESN'T VIOLATE ANY LAW....
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Also what I ment by there isn't such a thing, I mean that there isn't anyone making LEO only M1 Carbines out there.
If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.
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You won't go to jail, nor will your friend get fired for doing it unless its specifically against department policy....
Boy you guys are so ready to strike down its not even funny... I really appreciate ya'll watching my back like that though.
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Possession of these guns by anyone other than a LE agency is restricted by the import document, which is issued by the Dept of State. They cannot be sold to individual officers SINCE THEY ARE IMPORTED NONSPORTING FIREARMS.
I have, on BATF letterhead, the following:
"ATF has investigated and recommended for prosecution police officers who illegally acquired restricted firearms and sold them in violation of the Federal firearms laws. If you know of any instance in which a law enforcement officer has acquired any firearm(s) under this provision and subsequently sold or traded the firearm, I would encourage you to contact an ATF special agent in your area by telephoning 1-800-ATF-GUNS, for further assistance."
Lee, what did you say your friend's name was?
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Nmeyrs-Did you read my post at all.... They aren't imports. You sure are so quick to correct me sometimes I think you don't like me.
If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.
The sound of a 12 gauge pump clears a house fatser than Rosie O eats a Big Mac !
Edited by - leeblackman on 08/28/2002 14:20:230 -
Lee, I DO like you! You post many of the best, most informative responses on this forum.
You may be correct that these are not imports, but they sure didn't come from US arsenals. DOD has never sold M1 carbines to distributors, but they HAVE given away many to LE agencies. These may well be police trade-ins, which may legally be sold to anyone.
GFCC's ad states "Law enforcement sales only". Doesn't it seem odd that they would sell unrestricted guns to LE agencies for $189, when they could easily get twice that from individuals?
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Many departments and agencies now require that their trade-in guns are for Export or LE use only. This is spelled out quite clearly in their bid specifications when put up for bid. Violations of this can get the seller in any number of legal problems with that jurisdiction. The high bidder sometimes overlooks this little provision and bids way to low because of the limited market for export and LE guns.
This restriction was placed in the bid by the dept/agency therefore making a 'restricted' gun out of a normally un-restricted gun. Yes, the jurisdiction will do spot checks and prosecute. This restriction is on the original seller from the dept/agency and should have no bearing on any later sales unless the gun is marked 'restricted'.
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