Ithaca Model 37, 12 Ga.
Hello,
First time on the board and I need help!!
In April, I purchased a used Ithaca 37. Gun appeared clean and in good condition. I took it out for the first time and after about 5 rounds it miss fired. After several tense moments I cycled another shell and it also went "click". I examined both shells and the primer caps weren't even scratched.
I took the gun back to the dealer, who diagonsed a defective hammer and replaced it. The repair process took the better part of three months and I just got the gun back last week.
Today, I went to the trap range, and on the first station with the first shell, the same thing. "CLICK!!" I was not a happy camper.
I picked up 5 spent hulls and re-crimped them by hand. On the tailgate of the truck I tried cycling the spent hulls through the action. It failed to extract about 80% of the time.
So is this a common problem in Ithaca 37's? My father has an older gun (pre 1950) that has never mis-fired and the only time it ever failed to extract a spent hull was a turkey load that split the brass.
As I said above, help!!
First time on the board and I need help!!
In April, I purchased a used Ithaca 37. Gun appeared clean and in good condition. I took it out for the first time and after about 5 rounds it miss fired. After several tense moments I cycled another shell and it also went "click". I examined both shells and the primer caps weren't even scratched.
I took the gun back to the dealer, who diagonsed a defective hammer and replaced it. The repair process took the better part of three months and I just got the gun back last week.
Today, I went to the trap range, and on the first station with the first shell, the same thing. "CLICK!!" I was not a happy camper.
I picked up 5 spent hulls and re-crimped them by hand. On the tailgate of the truck I tried cycling the spent hulls through the action. It failed to extract about 80% of the time.
So is this a common problem in Ithaca 37's? My father has an older gun (pre 1950) that has never mis-fired and the only time it ever failed to extract a spent hull was a turkey load that split the brass.
As I said above, help!!
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This is not a common problem. I think you should find another
gunsmith, one that is deserving of the name. The Ithaca is
not a complicated shotgun, and is easy to repair.0 -
Welcome John.
As recommended above, take the 37 to a "gunsmith".
Besides not repairing it, it should not have taken
3 mos. to replace a model 37 hammer. Could be a worn
or broken firing pin, or spring causing the misfire.
Extraction problem could be a dirty or pitted chamber,
worn extractor (top or bottom), or weak extractor spring.
Don't send flowers when I die. Send money now, I can buy more ammo.0 -
Ithica 37's are notorius for breaking firing pins when they get dry-fired. When I started in police work my dept used these shotguns prior to getting the Rem 870's. Police shotguns get dry-fired a lot more than they do with ammo because the ofcrs have to check their function before taking them into the field.
We found that about 30% of the Ithicas had broken firing pins from being dry-fired everyday. Fortunately nobody got hurt because of it.
I found that by closing the action, then droping a dime down the barrel and pulling the trigger with the muzzle up, I could tell if the pin was ok. The dime would would get knocked up into the barrel and sometimes come all the way out.
It sounds like you started with a broken firing pin, and you may have a worn out extractor.
happy shootin -Joe-0 -
Oh, I forgot to say,,, WELCOME TO THE FORUM... 0 -
I agree with the above answer and I would buy A after markeet firing pin of good quality.
Best!!!
Rugster
Toujours Pret0 -
If you should want to take it apart, it's necessary to remove the buttstock first. The stock attaching screw, under the recoil pad,binds up the trigger guard screw and you'll bugger it up trying to remove it.
I threw up my hands with the random jamming of my 1965 Mod 37 and had it fixed by Ithaca Gun co. in upstate NY.
You'll love it once you get it going.0 -
Thanks for the help. I'll give the dime test a try, and check out some after market extractor springs and firing pin. 0 -
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Hello,
First time on the board and I need help!!
In April, I purchased a used Ithaca 37. Gun appeared clean and in good condition. I took it out for the first time and after about 5 rounds it miss fired. After several tense moments I cycled another shell and it also went "click". I examined both shells and the primer caps weren't even scratched.
I took the gun back to the dealer, who diagonsed a defective hammer and replaced it. The repair process took the better part of three months and I just got the gun back last week.
Today, I went to the trap range, and on the first station with the first shell, the same thing. "CLICK!!" I was not a happy camper.
I picked up 5 spent hulls and re-crimped them by hand. On the tailgate of the truck I tried cycling the spent hulls through the action. It failed to extract about 80% of the time.
So is this a common problem in Ithaca 37's? My father has an older gun (pre 1950) that has never mis-fired and the only time it ever failed to extract a spent hull was a turkey load that split the brass.
As I said above, help!!
Hi John-- I am also new on the board. But I was Interested in your post on the Mod.37. My Dad bought one in the early 50s and I hunted with it on numerous ocassions. My 28 year old son now hunts with it and to date have never had any problem with it. It has brought in a lot of birds and rabbits. It has been a great shooter. I think you need to take Rugsters and the others advice---Get a good Gunsmith!!
Good luck. Beejay0
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