RE: Marlin camp 45

Hunter4life

August 17, 2002 21:43

If you want to live,USE PEPPER SPRAY !!!!!!!!
If you want to die use a gun...any gun...if
you don't kill the bear, your as good as dead!!
Grizzly Bears bluff charge over 90% of the time.
A bear that WAS bluffing will maul you if you
foolishly injure it..It's tough to shoot a bear
that starts a 40 mph charge at close range. How
fast can you draw a gun and place 1 fatal shot
while you're crapping your pants? And if you are
attacked by a GRIZ, play dead, it may just maul you
a little then drag you off to the brush and bury you.
you might live(if you didn't injure the bear). If it
is a black bear...then fight for your life, because
that is what it's going to do...Educate yourself about
bears, and appreciate them...they may not be as ferocious
and dangerous as you think..then again.....

good luck fishin and stay safe

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  E.Williams

  August 17, 2002 22:29

  Are you talking about regular run of the mill capiscum spray?Does that really work?I would think it would piss one off worse then a .44mag or 45/70.It is surprising though if it works.
  
  Eric S. Williams
  
  Edited by - E.Williams on 08/18/2002 02:33:28

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  aglore

  August 17, 2002 22:38

  If you really want to live, stay out of the woods. Nobody on the previous thread said that pepper spray did not work. Better question would be does it really work. USFWS did some experimenting with pepper spray in the Alaska Penninsula area. Sprayed it on the ground all around their camp. Bears just came a rolled around in it. If you are using pepper spray, you have to be upwind of the bear. And the bear will already be within 25 feet when you use the spray because that is the effective range of it. In order for spray to work effectively you have to get it on the mucus membranes, if not your screwed after it gets that close if it is in fact a real charge and not a bluff charge. And if it turns out to be a real charge and it gets that close, you will never have a chance to draw your revolver of bring rifle to shoulder. A bear will cover 100 yards in about 4-5 seconds.
  
  AlleninAlaska
  
  He who dares not offend cannot be honest.
  -- Thomas Paine

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  Hunter4life

  August 17, 2002 23:08

  Did i forget to mention there is NO good
  answer to this dilema?

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  joeaf1911a1

  August 18, 2002 07:49

  I have a Marlin Camp Carbine but would not think about it for bears
  at all. I also have a old (?) Winch. Mod. 94 "Big Bore" .375 which
  weighs about the same and would think about it for bears. That Winc.
  .375 really has quite a knockdown power for its small size. I sometimes wonder how it stays together in that caliber.

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  TED GAR

  August 20, 2002 09:18

  I am a 45 man, love the 45acp cartrige. I have much success, with this round, for large 450-500pound hogs. And it penetrates their skulls, no problem. It would kill a bear if you put it right on his skull, at 2yds, or place it on his backside, just behind the heart.
  But as much as I love it, I would not use it on a Grizzly. I know of
  men that can kill a bear with a Knife, from the backside, and puncture,the heart, but they are seasoned, and know where to put the blade. Get a Bigger gun.

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  leeblackman

  August 20, 2002 11:23

  I back what Algore said. I heard from a biology professor at Lamar University about the black bears rolling around in the pepper spray. Apparently its a defense mechanism against other bears being the stinkiest bear on the block, and they think pepper spray stinks so they roll around in it.
  
  Personally I'd vote for a high power revolver. Something fast on the draw that you can pull the trigger on really fast to put as much lead into it as possible and hope the bear bleeds out before its able to maul you really bad. Maybe a .44mag, .480ruger, or .454casual.
  
  If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.
  
  The sound of a 12 gauge pump clears a house fatser than Rosie O eats a Big Mac !

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