Ithaca ejection

dh

August 13, 2002 12:35

I recently tried out a friends 12 gauge semi auto using Winchester game loads.Maybe 1 out of 10 empties ejected and almost never did I get a second round in the chamber.Is there something I'm missing or do I just need to use a bit stouter load.I don't want to use high brass shells to hunt dove and I was seriously thinking about buying this from him.I haven't owned a semi auto in over 20 years,just pumps as far as shotguns so I'm at a loss. Not to sound stupid but does the "lug",for lack of a better word at the end of the foregrip have anything to do with the ejection power? I know there are certain clicks to apply after backing it off for cleaning. Is this my imagination or not?

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  aglore

  August 13, 2002 13:34

  For starters there is no power difference between High Brass and Low Brass loads. You may just need to go with a heavier shot charge. You never mentioned which load(shot oz's) would not function but sounds like like some of the light loads that you can buy real inexpensively. That "lug" if I'm understanding you correctly is just the forearm nut.
  
  AlleninAlaska
  
  He who dares not offend cannot be honest.
  -- Thomas Paine

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  oneshy

  August 13, 2002 13:59

  Aglore has said what I would say. Look on the shell box. Most semi-autos require 1oz.-11/4oz. shot at 27/8-31/4 Drams Equivalent (powder charge). I believe it should also be printed on the shell hull. The lug holds the gun together, and should be hand-tight. The clicks are caused by the lock ring as it's tightened.

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  HUNTER30

  August 13, 2002 17:39

  I have a Ithaca 37 12ga pump & when i use the short brass the gun will jam.When i use the long brass i have no problem with ejection.Since i very seldom use the short brass it is not a problem for me.So it sounds like a ithaca thing so stay with the high brass. Hunter

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  BT99

  August 13, 2002 17:46

  Is this a model 51 chambered for 3 inch. If so, a 2 3/4 load will
  not eject.

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  v35

  August 13, 2002 18:40

  Hunter- I had a jamming Ithaca 37 Featherweight that I took up to the factory last Fall and Ithaca fixed it in 10 minutes. They charged me $50 for correcting a manufacturing defect that should have been done for free. I love the gun and can hit pretty good with it so I'm not all that unhappy.

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  HUNTER30

  August 14, 2002 03:27

  v35 like you i love my ithaca.I have taken alot of game with my shotgun & also have a slug barrel.My ithaca is a older one i had it since i was 11 years old & it has never let me down using the high brass shells.Did they ever say what was the problem with the gun? Hunter

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  dh

  August 14, 2002 03:43

  Thanks to all of you. I dug out a box this a.m. when dropping off my trash and here is what it says: 3 1/4 dr.eq. 7/8 shot oz. #8 shot and they are Winchester Game Loads.Sounds like I better upgrade to something heavier. Thanks again.

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  v35

  August 14, 2002 07:34

  Hunter- I'm pretty good with guns and mechanisms but the jamming baffled me. They at first told me the gun was picky about the brand of ammo but that wasn't true. After a lot of internal polishing and touching up,including reforming the lifter which deformed during a jam,the action was a lot smoother but it would still jam solid and refuse to unlock. I have only used low brass so far.
  The factory gunsmith was tight lipped about the fix and came out after only a few minutes guaranteeing it was corrected. It looks like he took a light bevel grinding cut in the chamber because the finish is removed there. This would increase the headspace. Since the buttstock has to be removed to take the action apart I havent examined it yet to see what else he might have done. If I were to guess I'd say he changed the angle of the boltface or locking lug but that's speculation. Mine is a '65 Deluxe with ventilated rib.

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