Rock Island 45 need help
Paid $350.
I looks like I nice gov. model, Frame steel is SOFT, less than 50 shots through it and the recoil guide has left quite an indent on the frame. there is also substantial and uneven wear on the slide rails. the BEST groups are 10" at 15yds with speer lawman 230 fmj.
Enough complaining, here is the real problem.
The last round out of the factory 8 rnd mag comes out of the mag and the slide locks back. the next round justs sits on top of the mag lips.
Questions.
Is it the mag?
Should I use one of those shock buffers for the slide?
Where are good aftermarket barrels for reasonable money to help the accuracy?
thanks any advise would be great.
You are what you eat? I guess I'm a beaver!
I looks like I nice gov. model, Frame steel is SOFT, less than 50 shots through it and the recoil guide has left quite an indent on the frame. there is also substantial and uneven wear on the slide rails. the BEST groups are 10" at 15yds with speer lawman 230 fmj.
Enough complaining, here is the real problem.
The last round out of the factory 8 rnd mag comes out of the mag and the slide locks back. the next round justs sits on top of the mag lips.
Questions.
Is it the mag?
Should I use one of those shock buffers for the slide?
Where are good aftermarket barrels for reasonable money to help the accuracy?
thanks any advise would be great.
You are what you eat? I guess I'm a beaver!
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sorry to hear about yer woes; obviously you have purchased the proverbial P.O.S.
Throwing good money after bad to fix it up will not get you the results you are looking for. Replacing the bbl without fixing lockup and fit issues will not result in better accuracy. The softness of your frame will undermine any efforts to improve the slide/frame and bbl/slide fitting issues. Chances are that all the parts suffer from inadequate heat treating, which means that they will wear quickly, again undermining any efforts to fit them properly.
It's easy for me to tell you to write this one off as a mistake, but that's my advice. You need to start with good material before you have a chance to build a decent working pistol. For low budget starters that are well made, consider Norinco, Essex, Caspian, and used GI parts. A lot of used Springfields and GI .45s are out there, and will deliver a lifetime of good service.0 -
DID YOU BUY IT NEW? IF SO CALL FACTORY,SEND BACK FOR SERVICE!!!! SHOCK BUFF WOULD HELP, ALSO TRY A NEW RECOIL SPRING, MOST FEED PROBLEMS ARE DUE TO BAD MAGAZINE, TRY MEC-GAR OR CHIP McCORMICK MAGAZINE. BENCH REST YOUR PISTOL FOR GROUP, TRIGGER PULL, TRIGGER PULL, LET THE GUN SUPRISE YOU WHEN IT GOES OFF, SIGHT ALIGNMENT!!!IF YOU GET BETTER GROUPS THIS WAY, IT A MATTER OF PRACTICE,PRACTICE,PRACTICE. 0 -
I'd say send it back, when or if they send you a new one back, put some fel-pro antisieze, very slight amount, on the rails to help things wear just right. Then install a shock buff. And if your going to be shooting 230fmj ammo only, then put an 18 lb spring in it. As far as magazines, I find that all my 1911's favor one of two different types. Wilson or Chip McCormik. The one's that jam up and don't feed with Wilsons love CM, and vise versa.
As far as accuracy, you may need to try from a bench on a rest to get real results, alot of problems can be caused by the shooter, and shooting free handed is the worst way to measure accuracy. If it doesn't shoot worth a darn, hold the slide and stick your finger in the barrel. See how much the barrel moves in the slide when in the locked position. If it has alot, then replace the bushing with a fitted one. And if it has those old military lack of sights, you might look into replacing them to.
Make sure to allow for the gun to break in. Take it out a put a good couple hundred rounds thru it, cleaning it and keeping it oiled pretty good regularly. Any other problems you have can usually be trouble shooted pretty easily considering its a 1911.
If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.
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Well returned the pistol to dealer yesterday. He was kind enoght to trade for another Crock Island, Taking it out today (sunday) Hopefully with better results.
I will report.
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Hello,
Good luck with the "Crock Island" adventure , they are a "cheaper"
version of the real ( COLT ) Thing , just like numerous others out there on the market....But , we do sell a bunch of these , because of
prices (dealer is now $309.95), anyhow , sounds like you got a real
"lemon" in the bunch , if you dont have any better results with the new one , contact us if interested in trading for something (or selling) else .....
Thanks & Good Luck !!!!!!!!!
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d.a. stearns
gunsmith / leo
sweetwater , tn
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You've gotten some great advice..j2k22 and the rest of the Gang has made the right call...Don't wait until you have an accident and then wish you had listened....I wish you well.......Best.....
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Yes sir, you get what you pay for. Here is a rule of thumb.
You know those guns that have lifetime warranty?? They need
it, because, they aren't worth a flip. I have an old 1943
colt, has probably, 3000 rounds through it, and if you grip
the gun, and shake it..It is tight, as the day it was made.
No warranty, whatsoever, It was built for War, Built to last.
Even, the magazines, were heat treated, you can tell, by
the blue and white, tint, on the side of the mags. Load the
heck out of them, and they, will never have feeding problem.
BUY QUALITY, NOT THE WARRANTY...0 -
WEll this NEW RIA seems to be alot better, Groups from rest are like 5" and I think that could be a little bit me. I have trouble seeing the front sight. Frame looks better, Did some one tell me to use never seize on the frame? Won't that harden over time and be messy?
now I am using CLP. Thanks for the Advice.
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hi, go back & read my other post. 0
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