Remington 700 mil-spec barrel ?

altos

July 11, 2002 11:08

Has anyone ever heard of a Remington 700 with
a "mil-spec" barrel ? The Remington rep I talked
with at a local shot proudly showed it to me but
had absolutely no knowledge of what made it "mil-spec",
other than commenting that it might be "a sorted
barrel or something".

Ooooooook. So, he was no help.

Anyone have any info, including whether this is
even a "real thing" ?
Thanks

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  GreenLantern

  July 11, 2002 11:53

  Well, Remington makes the M24 for the military. Originally they were going to go with an outside contractor for the barrels, Boots Obermeyer I think. Instead they decided to make them in house, so maybe it is one of those. But when I hear 'mil-spec' I don't tend to think of it in any way, shape, or form as 'match grade' that the M24 would have.

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  altos

  July 11, 2002 12:23

  GreenLantern,
  It does seem a bit odd. If it were a "better" barrel, and good enough to be called "Match Grade", calling it that would make sense. But calling it "mil-spec" doesn't tell anyone squat, other than it costs more for the privilege of being... mil-spec. The whole thing sounds weak. Then again, maybe someone out there has the true poop.
  
  Thanks for the reply !

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  GreenLantern

  July 11, 2002 13:01

  It does sound strange doesn't it. Yet it's not the first time I've heard of a 'rep' not knowing much about a product their selling. If it were me as the rep I think I'd like to know as much as I can about something I'm displaying or sell so I don't look like an idiot when someone asks a quesiton about it. Hopefully someone can add some more info on it.

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  altos

  July 11, 2002 18:48

  Rumor... has it that there is a barrel called a "5R", radius cut 5 channel rifling. That could be it, but very unlikely. Could also be some obtuse reference to the barrel finish which means the Remington rep was really out in far, far left field where no one has gone before, nor wants to.

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  GreenLantern

  July 11, 2002 19:38

  "5R" rings a bell for some reason. I think I came across it when I was doing a little research on the M24. If I get time tomorrow I'll try and find the page I read it on

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  nononsense

  July 12, 2002 17:19

  The term "mil-spec" is short for military specifications. Everything that each branch of military uses from the lowly paper clip to each and every part of the most sophisticated missile or jet has a "mil-spec". These are the definitions of what a thing is that satisfies a need or use for the military. It tells a manufacturer what a thing is as well as what it is not. These parts are also subjected to tests that prove that it meets the "specs". These tests have to witnessed and documented then submitted to the military for review and selection.
  
  A Remington Mil-Spec barrel is exactly that, a barrel that has met the criteria and specifications by tests and documentation of the military branch that requested the barrels. It does not make it a "Match" barrel by any means. The military has very different requirements other than "Match" to worry about.
  
  5R is a rifling form or shape. Several barrel makers can provide 5R rifling either by cut or button or broach. The shape has to do with the way the rifling wears or doesn't wear. The 5R is supposed to wear better than other forms under Field firing conditions such as long strings of fire while providing for adequate accuracy.

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  cpermd

  July 13, 2002 03:39

  Listen up.
  Some of you are very close .
  Mil spec M24 and M40 rifles have 5R barrels.
  They obviously have 5 grooves.
  The tops of the lands and the bottoms of the grooves have radiussed corners.
  There are two other differences you can't see,but I have found.
  If it has 5 grooves,buy it and STORE it.
  cpermd

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  nononsense

  July 13, 2002 10:13

  There shouldn't be any reason to store them since Mike Rock is manfacturing them and they are currently available to the public.

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  michael minarik

  July 13, 2002 11:24

  I have the Rem 700 mil-spec rifle. It is has a 24" heavy stainlss barrel, non-fluted. 308 and I wish I had another! For me it is the perfect hunting rifle(wish it had claw extaction like Ruger or Winchester). I am really not expert enuff to tell if there is a significant difference in accuracy because of the number of lands and grooves(5) I just like the set up. On the outside of the Rem box is printed: Mil-spec.

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