utica fire arms co. 12g sxs

southern il.

June 25, 2002 17:02

req.info on this fine old double.ser#26xxx,pat dates nov 25 90/march12 95,lock on top of bbl marked london fluid steel,there is a markon frame u1 same mark on bottom of bbls by ejector rod,between bbls bottom stamped #3,grip cap is marked simmons hardware co.the bore othis old gun is bright.any info will be appricated ,value?thanks, sass.. hard rock miner

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  captkirk3@dslextreme.com

  June 25, 2002 17:13

  I believe what you have is a BELGUIM made import for the Hardware and Mail Order Trade....circa late 1890's thru Early 1900's..Look under the Barrels at the Breech End and see if there is an Oval with the letters E over LG...If there is..its deffinately belguim....Value is around $150.00.....
  
  Captain Kirk, Tech Staff

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  nord

  June 26, 2002 04:06

  The good Capt. Kirk is 110% correct, but there could be a small light at the end of the tunnel...
  
  The "Utica" name was chosen because it was in such close proximity to so many of the famous makers. Savage in Mohawk, Remington in Ilion, Lefever in Syracuse, Hunter in Fulton, and Ithaca in Ithaca. That none of the Utica's were domestic had nothing to do with anything, other than confuse a buyer.
  
  The bright side is that I have heard tell of Utica's with quality components. There's even a rumor that one might have been had with Krupp tubes. If so, then the value would be very low at $150.00.
  
  Nord

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  southern il.

  June 27, 2002 05:29

  found utica fire arms in 2001 standard cat of firearms.there is no proof marks on reciver.mfg.by crescent f. arms co for simmons hardware co.st.louis,mo.no mention of .is this like wire twist or damascus?will fluid steel bbls handle modern light loads?

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  nord

  June 27, 2002 10:00

  That would be a new one, but I guess I'm not surprised. Crescent & Stevens made pretty good tubes. If yours is fluid steel and in good shape, then I see no reason why it couldn't be shot safely. Make sure the chambers have been relieved and see a good smith before you start.
  
  Just a hunch, but I'll bet more than the tubes are Crescent/Stevens. These were "contract" guns for the most part and they must have been the low bidder for a run of guns.
  
  Nord

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