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  • varmit hunter
    Don't know,But UMC sure works for me in both 9mm &45.

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  • JustC
    UMC, I beleive are once fired reloads produced by Remington. I think you can find some explanation on the sides/ends of the box, maybe the back.

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  • mballai
    I don't think they are reloads--no marks, but they usually have more muzzle flash and you might still find some with plain lead bullets. Just basic budget target ammo for practice.

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  • n4thethrill
    i am looking at a box of umc 45 acp on the box it says once fired brass hope this helps

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  • leeblackman
    Yea, I think that their UMC stuff just uses cheaper components and more is produced, where as the regular Remington stuff is a more quality ammo.

    If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.

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  • mballai
    Most of the budget ammo from Remington Winchester Federal and CCI is pretty good stuff. Most of the UMC I used was 38 SPL and it definitely had some real muzzle flash, but it was accurate.

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  • JustC
    n4thethrill, I called remington and asked and they say that they don't sell once fired brass to the public. But, just like you, I HAVE READ IT ON A BOX. The boxes we have, may have been circulated through some other licensing channels (leo supplier etc) that ended up selling them to wholesalers, and then from there to the stores.

    The consumer (ones you are supposed to get) grade UMC ammo is the same remington brass, HOWEVER, the washing step after annealing is skipped to keep cost down. The powder mix is also different and cheaper to keep cost down, hence the increased muzzle flash. Hope this helps guys.

    A great rifle with a junk scope,....is junk.
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  • Gordian Blade
    I did notice that UMC seemed a little dirty, now I know why. Worked well, though. I'm shooting some Danish NATO surplus 9mm now, that's really nice stuff. Wish I had bought more.
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  • ishootblanks
    If it's once fired or not, I don't care. Its good ammo and usually at a great price. I use the 9mm, 40S&W, and 45ACP.

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  • azzeater
    Doesn't UMC stand for Union Metallic Cartridge? I may be wrong but i thought it said that on the box.

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  • JustC
    yes UMC does stand for Union metalic cartridge. It is owned by remington arms. It is not necessarily dirty, just a different blend of powders than the green box rounds with the remington label. I havn't found it to be dirty, and I have always liked it. Just thought I would do some research today and find out the skinny on the brass and powder.

    A great rifle with a junk scope,....is junk.
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  • Iconoclast
    UMC was a very big ammo manufacturer in the 1800s & early 1900s. Remington had an ammo operation in the early days of CF ammo (circa 1875-1885) that was not all that successful & they were out of that market long before 1900. Then they bought out UMC - the reason you see "Remington - UMC" on headstamps and boxes of ammo dating back 40+ years ago. They retain the right to use the name, which is why this secondary line bears that trademark.
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