30 WCFSR

griz

May 12, 2002 20:38

What does the "SR" stand for in 30 WCFSR ammo/reloading dies. I know 30 WCF is the same as 30-30, but am wondering if 30 WCFSR reloading dies will work for 30 WCF or 30-30. The reloader I am conserned with is an antique 1894 winchester reloading tool and am curious if the "SR" means a rimless case or something.

My apologies if this should have been posted under the reloading forum.

griz

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  Tailgunner1954

  May 13, 2002 04:39

  While I don't have a answer for you, these guys might http://www.oldshootingtools.org/
  good luck
  

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  Some guys like a mag full of lead, I still prefer one round to the head.

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  mrmike08075

  May 13, 2002 19:08

  semi-rimmed???(as in rebated, belted, rimmed, etc...)

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  v35

  May 14, 2002 13:55

  Since the tool is ancient, and the 30-30 WCF was the first smokeless cartridge in the 19th century, maybe SR meant smokeless, rimmed.

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  griz

  May 14, 2002 16:17

  For what its worth I went to the "oldshootingtools" site tailgunner suggested and asked some questions. Replies are as follows - quote
  
  "I think this refers to the "short range" or small game load. Early Ideal Handbooks(see the reprint of #15 [ca. 1902] from Wolfe, pp. 29 and 101) listed several bullets in the 100 - 125 grain range for this purpose in the .30-30 Win. and Marlin, .303 Savage,etc. Similar loads were available from the factories in these and other calibers; also
  lighter loads - often with round balls - for gallery and armory practice. These were,of course, interchangeable with standard loadings."
  
  "I have Winchester "SR" tools and molds for 32-40 and 38-55 also. The bullets are light weight and probably used for plinking, varmint shooting or short range practice. I have never seen a 32 W.S. SR tool...has anyone else? Or, for that matter, a SR tool in any other caliber?"
  
  griz

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  v35

  May 14, 2002 16:55

  That's interesting. If so, the bullet seating die would probably be restricted to shorter bullets or maybe round ball.

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