Siamese mauser action for 45-70

steve45

April 28, 2002 10:17

I have read that these actions were used for conversion to 45-70. Which ones? Why are these used instead of Rem,Win or Savage.

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  I.Shute

  April 28, 2002 10:50

  Only one Siamese action that I know of, although most were chambered from 8x50R to 8x52R. The bolt face for the rimmed Siam. needs to be opened up only a little for the .45-70 and the magazine is sloped so the rims don't hang up on the rims underneath. Also the action is strong enough for hot loads like a 405 grain bullet at 2150 fps.
  I.Shute
  haywire27@webtv.net

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  MIKE WISKEY

  April 29, 2002 06:18

  THE SIAMESE M-98 MAUSER COPIES ARE THE ONLY MODERN MILITARY ACTIONS THAT WHERE MADE FOR A RIMMED CARTRIDGE AND ARE EASY TO SPORTERISE. WE USED TO BUY THESE FROM SARCO FOR 3/$75. I HAD A DEER LOAD FOR ONE OF MINE THAT GOT 2600 FPS WITH THE HORNADY 300 GN H.P. I HAVE MADE A LOT OF THESE INTO .45/70, 450 ALASKAN, AND .50/110.

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  I.Shute

  April 29, 2002 08:46

  Hey Mike-
  Have you ever used the P-14 Enfield (.303 British)? It's also rimmed, longer and stronger than the Siamese - makes a dandy .45-70, etc.
  I'd like to get your email address.
  Thanks,- I.Shute
  haywire27@webtv.net

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  Der Gebirgsjager

  April 29, 2002 10:06

  .45-70 rifles are also made on Lee Enfield actions and are currently available from Gibbs Rifle/Navy Arms Co.

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  MIKE WISKEY

  April 29, 2002 10:51

  I.SCHUTE; THE .45/70 ECT. ARE JUST THE RIGHT LENGHT FOR THE SIAMESE, I USUALY RESERVE THE P-14/17 FOR THE LARGER MAGNUMS AS THEY ARE MUCH LONGER. I JUST FINISHED A P-14 IN .416 REM. (MY SHOULDER STILL HURNS FROM TEST FIRING). TO ME, A P-14 IN .45/70 IS LIKE HAVEING A CORVET AND ONLY USING SECOND GEAR. THE SMLE ENFIELDS ARE OK BUT YOU CANN'T LOAD THEM AS HOT AS THE SIAMESE. E-MAIL ADDRESS IS MERRILLSMW@AOL

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  I.Shute

  April 29, 2002 11:02

  I'd be concerned that the actions of the Gibbs rifles are stout enough for rounds we like to shoot in the Siamese and P-14's. Some loads approach those of the .458 Win. Mag. Not sure what loads Navy Arms recommends for theirs. I don't like to shoot the really heavy loads in the new Marlin 1895,- hurts too bad, but never heard of the rifle failing. They're sure building some brutes on them now, must be strong enough.
  I.Shute

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