FFL
ok, what is an FFL and how do you get one if you dont have one?
Thankyou and Godbless
Thankyou and Godbless
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Can one get an ffl for just internet sales if I ddin't want to have a store front just yet. 0 -
Ask your dealer to contact the ATF. Then when he has it straight, get your gun and in the future use a dealer who knows what he's doing.
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This may be your dealers rule for his shop. It is not a federal law. BATF has no such rule or law. 0 -
This is another case of a dealer not knowing the law and just playing C.Y.A.Ask him if he ever took a gun in as part of a trade, or did he buy a gun from a person and then sold it in his store.That would indicate that he had received guns in the past from none FFL's.But that only address's the federal law, some states have their own rules on where a Gun shop can purchase guns from, such as: only from a Licensed dealer and or distributor a CCW holder or an LEO, NY has it spelled out this way in regard to handguns.After you clear up this little problem, find a new dealer in advance and iron out all of the details before you bid.Check out the ATF page and print out the information or have him contact ATF, only the receiving end of the transaction has to be an FFL, and that is in order to process the 4473.Good Luck
If you Fail to Prepare, Prepare to Failfreetog@ulster.net0 -
Ask your dealer to get out his copy of the Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide (ATF P5300.4). Open it to page 70, and show him the part of the Firearms Acquisition and Disposition Record labelled "Receipt"; when he receives a firearm, he is required to enter data in only 2 fields: "Date", and "Name and address or name and license No.". As long as he has the name and address of the sender, that's all he needs from him.If he still refuses to deliver the gun, YOU should call BATF and explain your problem to an agent.Neal 0 -
Thanks to all who responded At least now I know who is right and who is wrong. Alan 0 -
I don't know what the legal requirement is. But, I do know the selling dealer on the gun I recently bought did include a copy of his FFL, and my dealer filed it with the rest of the paperwork. Doesn't seem to me like it should be that big of a deal to stick a copy in the box. 0 -
Good news I finally got my Sistema today Thanks to all who helped. My wife called the ATf and got the regs concernig transfers and quoted them to my dealer. He still would not believe her so she had him call the ATF agent. He called back and told her to tell me to come and get my gun, no apology for making me wait two weeks, and still charged me the transfer fee, needless to say he won't be getting any more of my business or anyone I know or will know. 0 -
Trapfreek,I hope you courteously explained to that dealer why you will not patronize his shop again and that you plan to tell all of your shooting buddies about the ordeal.Be respectful and let him know just how much future business he lost by being ignorant and unwilling to learn.I've see a few such dealers and they deserve all the bad press you can give them. On the other hand, there are dealers like two in my area that go out of their way to help their customers. When I buy a new gun that I any dealer can sell, I make sure I give my business to one of them and let them know that I appreciate their shops and attitudes toward their customers. 0
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