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Cleaning old dark barrels?

DENWA
Bought a couple of "shooter grade" good-very good turk 98's from Century.YEH- right! 1 had a broken firing pin other had a broken trigger.Both bores look terrible! I have cleaned the better of the two-- vigorously. I have used the powder/copper solvent and the CLP and a bronze brush but it still looks dirty in the grooves. Anyone have any luck cleaning one of these "good" rifle barrels? What did you use? thanks
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  • k.stanonik
    You might want to invest in a outer foul out system, they electronicaly clean out the trash
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  • jonk
    First try a 50/50 mix of hydrogen peroxide and white vinegar. Let soak 5 minutes, then wipe out. This will remove ALL lead very quickly. As for copper, did you know you can make your own foul out system for pennies? Visit http://www.storm.ca/~debin666/html/projects9.html for instructions. It really does work wonderfully!Also, don't overlook scrubbing with gasoline and a good brush OUTSIDE, then washing through with boiling hot soapy water.
    "...hit your enemy in the belly, and kick him when he is down, and boil his prisoners in oil- if you take any- and torture his women and children. Then people will keep clear of you..." -Admiral of the Fleet Lord Fisher, speaking at the Hague Peace Conference in 1899.
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  • jonk
    One more thought- if this doens't work, a lot of people have had surprising accuracy from these guns, even though the bore LOOKS awful.
    "...hit your enemy in the belly, and kick him when he is down, and boil his prisoners in oil- if you take any- and torture his women and children. Then people will keep clear of you..." -Admiral of the Fleet Lord Fisher, speaking at the Hague Peace Conference in 1899.
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  • luger01
    After you've cleaned out all of the gunk, and the bore is still dark, you have a few options left.First, buy some J-B non-embedding bore cleaning compound (Brownells has it). Use the paste on an oiled patch to polish out roughness in the bore. You will need to stroke the patch through the bore repeated times, changing after every few strokes.Essentially, you are abrading the bore, but JBs is gentle and will just take out some of the roughness. What you end up with is a bore that doesn't gather up as much debris when shooting and has less friction (lower pressure and better velocities). It may still be dark, but should shoot better.Second attack is to fire-lap the bore. I recommend on of the kits that are now available. This is a harsher method, but is known to improve some barrels.Finally, if it won't shoot and you can't stand a dark bore, you have to rebarrel the action. (or trade/sell the rifle).I've found that some dark bores shoot better than shiney looking bores. Others are hopeless cases.Hint: I also use J-B on new rifles. Cleans out any factory leavings in the bore and helps keep the barrel clean longer. It's really great stuff. I always keep some in my cleaning kit.
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